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Deep Thoughts on Religion, Spirituality and God
by Susan K. de Vegter   
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Last edited: Friday, December 14, 2007
Posted: Saturday, December 08, 2007

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I found this in my documents and thought it lost. After reading it sure makes a lot of sense to me still. I'm leaving the draft as it is and posting it. To sure says a lot. Love,blessings and harmony!


Deep Thoughts on Religion and God

I wonder of a God who can redeem his justice over man with guilt...constant guilt...I wonder too of a God who is just and yet those babies starve and are born with little chance for survival...justice here too?

I wonder of a God who sees beauty in all things...creates them equal and yet some have brains outside their heads...and live no more than this equal?

I wonder of heavens and the vastness of territories undiscovered and too large to one supreme being responsible? Is a black hole a heaven?

I wonder of religions that preach if I'm not Mormon ( for example) then I'm surely damned to hell...then I wonder of the Catholic compromise in hell and heaven...the purgatory part where surely most all politicians and lawyers where you work your way up...or fall into a chasm of hell fire and damnation forever. ( How long is forever? )

Is this a second chance?

I wonder of lies...confessions and being told to say a few Hail Mary's and then you can start over the next day. What kind of religion allows mistakes over and over...what does a just God say of this lack of control?

I wonder of the marriage of religion and politics and the games that are certainly okay under this guise....the domain of the Pope...the Almighty who gives his life for the Catholic church .

I wonder of the commercialism of religions and how God feels about regenerating pink hair dye and vavoom hair...Cadillac's and obscene homes...preachers waiting and taking prostitutes...the sale of redemption for a few retirement checks...The potions peddled on medias that for "a few bucks God will heal you"...

Where is a supreme God in this? Surely he's insulted by the power of men in sheep's clothing pushing the wares of heaven...

Then the wars...the lost children of our society...the Klan and Black Muslims...the hate groups that pedal religion to be tax exempt...all under the guise of their God and their religion.

What has religion become.?..not hope...greed?...yes...not security for the soul...for a price. No! Media hocus pocus and sensationalism perhaps?

I think the God dwells within and that today over centuries of misdemeanors in religions...and the hype it all garners from Hollywood to the White House...that real religion is dead.

I feel that few know that God is in the heart, the mind and that some (are they 'chosen') are more susceptible to faint voices from Heaven...what is this?

Its the oasis (the island) where the id and all its energies go when death is a relief...its the consciousness...the focus of the mind and its power that lays down the body and releases the energy to muse and drink forever the life of a God from within.

Each person of a just God...with the passions and compassions of a true heart...the one that never envies but accepts, refines and moves on to a positive role in willed heaven...of their making...after all...if I think heaven for eternity would be a wonderful...fresh, beautiful and lush island...then the next person who left for their heaven may find a mountain or an eternal journey upon open waters in a Schooner.

Who's to say that my heaven would fit yours or theirs? This would be just reward for good souls.

I just want to say that God surely has his hands full with all these religions...the nay sayers...forcasters of doom for your retirement check...these prophets for pay...well they've left a bad taste in my mouth for a God that would say today's religions are justified in how they perform.

I prefer my thoughts of the gift for living island and an eternal smile.
Not too much to ask but I'm open for your God...I am a child who craves the arms of her Father...the one who will tell me I've been good and I will be given a solid home with security in the here after.

I hope you understand this part of me honey...I'm confused by it all.

Show me through all this.


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Reviewed by D. Arant 12/10/2007
Thanks for sharing so honestly your heart.

D. Scott Arant
Reviewed by Randall Barfield 12/9/2007
Most of these points are very good, Susan. However, there are a must keep in mind free will. I agree about the Mormon part, though it remains a mystery to me. For example, I've never been comfortable with why a good person in China or Japan or other places should not share heaven's many benefits. About confession and start again the next day (Catholic practices), it is certainly bible based and valid. That's why Jesus Himself said to forgive 70 X 7 (as a minimum). The point, basically, was always to forgive. So, yes, the person can confess and go about her/his business the next day, I think. Anyway, there are many points open and good for discussion here. Cheers
Reviewed by LadyJtalks LadyJzTalkZone (Reader) 12/9/2007
You ask a question that has been asked many times. Each of us finds a belief that feels right for us. They all preach the same thing they just don't see that from where they are. Good little write. Lady J
Reviewed by Walt Hardester 12/9/2007
Very deep thoughts indeed here Susan. I think that one of the greatest sins we can commit, if not against God, but against ourselves is to not keep an open mind. When we close our minds to the values and feelings of others and their belief systems, then we are surely dead. But in the end we must all remain true seekers and our own peace we must find.

Reviewed by George Carroll 12/8/2007
Well if you believe Jesus Christ is God then you have a God who is forgiving over and over again. The disciples asked Him how many times should I forgive my brother, 7 times? And Christ said no not 7 times but 70 timers 7 or in other words as many times as your brother repents to you and asks for forgiveness.
Reviewed by F William Broome 12/8/2007
You're on the right track, and you will be tested to write again, and again on doubts, questions, absolutes. For me, I believe that religiioous matters are best left to be pondered on sorted out... alone. As yousay, what Church (and they all tolerate breaking rules) allows its followers to make the same mistakes over and over? Being a bit of human, I need understanding (forgiveness?), since I'm not going to be perfect. Religion or no, the more decently we we treat others and ourselves, the more peaceful lives we live.
I don't expect more from other, nor myself. This surely continues to work for me. Love your intenseness. - Bill
Reviewed by Felix Perry 12/8/2007
I feel your doubt and your anxiety and I have recently been critizized for statements that I have made in regards to religion and my thoughts on organized religion. I chose not to spend useless energy fighting and arguing an issue that has no reality answers. I applaud your honesty for speaking out on how you truly feel and I hope others will appreciate your openess and candor.
Reviewed by Pierre Ortega 12/8/2007
Ponder this... If the ultimate battle in this existance is for our souls and the battle is between God and satan as we were taught, then
what is paramount in this war would certainly have to be the control and the possession of our souls, and that would have to mean that our souls are more important than anything, Good, evil, or otherwise.
That would mean that the power to do everything lies within us.

Love, Pierre

Reviewed by Karen Vanderlaan 12/8/2007
there is an incredible amount of wisdom in your questions-i applaud yoou for them
Reviewed by Malcolm Watts (Reader) 12/8/2007
Very well said Susan. This piece is very real and honest and wise. I hear your desire in the last paragraph for you "Crave the arms of father" There is no father but their is a mother inside you that can meet this need, along with the other good human beings around you. All the best with your writing Susan. Malcolm Watts
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