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Why Does a Good God Send People to Hell? (Religious)
By Paul H. Kogel
Wednesday, August 20, 2008
Rated "G" by the Author.
Why does God send people to Hell - or does He? So many people become bitterly accusatory because they have so little understanding. Maybe I can help. This was written so they will know why we Christians believe what we do.
In the beginning, God created the Earth. Why he did that, I don't know. I'm just glad he did.
He put the first man, in a Garden, which is called Eden. Adam and Eve were created immortal, because God provided them with fruit from a tree called Life. God breathed into Adam His own breath and from that breath came man's soul, which is God in him. The eternal cord, some have called it.
But God also created those things that were pleasing to Him and to man - the plants and the animals. But God did not create the Earth for the animals, He created it for His most beloved and prized creation - man. The proof of that is the fact that He did not give the animals names - He let Adam do that. He gave the Earth to Adam as his possession for as long as he walked in oneness with God, his source of eternal life.
Now God did not want His beloved to be like the animals, in that they did what was instinctive to do only. God so loved man that He longed that man would also love Him. (He then, first loved us.) So, in order for mankind to be capable of love, and according to God's perfection, which is His intrinsic wisdom, God had to give mankind a will. The ability to choose - the ability to choose to love God as God first loved him and thereby the capability to prove that love by choosing to obey Him and to remain in perfect union with Him. God had already proved His love to Adam by the gift of His creation and eternal life.
So now, man, with his own will, must have a way to exercise his love - prove or demonstrate his love. So God told His perfect, immortal beloved that there was only one law. He placed a tree in the garden and told man that he must not eat of that tree. If man did not eat from that tree, God would have His proof that man did indeed love Him as He loved man - more correctly, man would have his proof that he did indeed love God just as God loved him.
Well, we know what happened.
So according to the Law's of His perfect creation - the laws that we today may refer to as nature or science, as we come to understand the things of Gods natural laws, there came an acrimony between God and man. Now this place called Earth, which God had given legally (since God being God can only be Just) to man as his possession fell into peril .
This is what took place. Now, there was this angel - the Angel of Light, the most perfectly beautiful of all the angels, who said in his heart, then to other angels, something like... "If God is perfect, than He created us perfect. So since, we are perfect, we need no God. We do not need His laws - we can have our own laws and make them according to our perfect judgment."
(This note added, because some have questioned the “statement of Satan” added by me for continuity - but as far as I know no one knows just what he said or what particular incident caused Satan to rebel – if there was just one – but I placed this statement by him here merely as an illustration of his contempt and intention to rebel. Note, I said “something like…” – maybe it would have been helpful if I had said “’perhaps’ something like this…”. I did not mean to imply that these words will be found in scriptures.)
In this way, he thought himself to be equal with God who had created him. He caused one-third of the angels to follow him in a rebellion against God and lost. He was cast out of heaven and was caused to live in a place called the firmament. Thus was the fall of one third of the angels. This angel, now called Satan, hated God and set in his heart (since he failed at taking God's throne) that he would hurt God in the worst possible way. He would destroy - steal away - God's most beloved possession...mankind.
Now Satan, also called the Devil, came to Adam (Eve really - we know the story) and said that God did not tell them the whole truth. He said that mankind would not die - which means separation from God (which is hell by the way according to scripture, separation from God, I mean) - if they disobeyed Him - but the truth of the matter, Satan said, was that you, Adam, only have half of the story. The devil was cunning because this was, in fact, true . Man knew of good because he knew God, but he did not know of evil, man knew physical life because it had been given to him by God eternal, but he did not know physical death. Man also knew God, but he did not know separation from Him. Satan said that if Adam would heed his word and eat from the tree instead of God's word and not eat of it, then mankind would become like God, knowing both good and evil.
Thereby, came the fall of man. Now, to make a much longer story short, God had created a place for the evil one - the angel of light that became the angel of darkness, the Devil. This place God called Hell, and Satan knew of it. Since, Satan was an angle and could not die - God would have to lock him up in a place that he could not escape. Thus, the fiery pit of a place we call Hell. Satan will go to this place when his time comes. The time of judgment. Not now but when the war is complete and sin and death is defeated once and for all.
Adam believed Satan, and did not believe God. So, according to the Law of God, Adam, who God had given possession of the Earth for as long as he would love Him - obey Him - knew that he was turning over to Satan, dominion of the Earth, legally. But perhaps he didn't know that Satan also took control - ownership - of everything that was on the Earth as well, including God's beloved. Thus, the fall of man. The lost cord, as some have called it.
Now God, could have just shrugged it off and said, oh well, I guess mankind does not love Me, maybe I will go and create another Earth and another mankind - or not. But God so loved mankind, He sought a way to win him back to Himself and back to everlasting life with Him.
But, oh, the dilemma. God being God, had to be perfect, or He would not be God, so He had to find a way to do it legally, so that Satan could not claim that He did not have a right to take back His creation. So, God found a way.
Now according to God's perfect law - the law of separation from mankind's source of immortality, Adam must die. Adam was doomed to not only die, but to follow Satan - as he had willfully chosen to do. That meant, according to God's perfect law, that he would therefore follow Satan into the doom that God had set up for the devil and his angels - Hell.
God could not allow that to happen. He loved mankind too much to allow that to be his hopeless fate. So, God found a way. Since now sin and death has entered into the world by the fall of Adam, all the generations that came after Adam, by his now corrupt seed, would be born into the world corrupt. (That is why Christians are taught that we are born sinful, not good as the world, by large, believes.) And since all are born corrupt, by the corruptible seed of Adam, we - none of us - can save mankind because each of us must pay the price for the sin that we have committed by the corruption that was born in us.
So God had to bring Mercy to mankind by an incorruptible seed. He sent his own Son, called Mercy - (that is what I call him, for better understanding, sorry) to save us. We call him Jesus. You see, because of one man's sin (Adam), all have fallen into sin and death, so by only one man, God could redeem mankind, legally, as long as that man was perfectly without sin. We call him the Second Adam - Jesus.
For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him, should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16
For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world (to hell) but that through him, the world might be saved. John 3:17 (How it must grieve Him so, to hear us blame him for Hell, when He so wishes to save us from it, and has gone to such painful depths to make a way out for us.)
So God does not "send" anyone to Hell in the sense that non-believers seem to think. Or in the sense that some unthinking Christians may have told them. Man, by natural law, is already bound for Hell automatically, because of what Satan did to the first man, Adam.
Yes, God is Love - he is indeed, All Loving, and he proved it by his Justice and his Mercy and by sending his own Son to suffer death - He who knew no sin - to die for you and me. Jesus, did come and he did die and he did win our freedom from sin and death unto immortality, the everlasting life that we were originally suppose to have. We know He did because Jesus, having defeated Satan and death, which is the eternal separation from God, rose on the third day and He is risen.
And so shall we be also. We too, will live forever in Heaven. That is, those of us who simply believe that Jesus is who He said He is, and has done for us what He claims He has done. He made it simple. But, of course, it takes faith.
This is what the Bible tells us Christians. I wish I could have said it more plainly, but believe me I did say it short. John 3:16 and 17 says all that is really needed to be said, but somehow, it just doesn't seem to be enough these days.
So now you know why we Christians believe what we do. Now maybe you understand why it is sometimes difficult for us to understand why so many people kick against it and seem to even hate it. To us, it is beautiful, wonderful, so very marvelous. How could we not want this for all to share.
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|Reviewed by Edward Phillips
|The study of theology, as it stands in the Christian churches, is the study of nothing; it is founded on nothing; it rests on no principles; it proceeds by no authority; it has no data; it can demonstrate nothing; and it admits of no conclusion…All national institutions of churches, whether Jewish, Christian, or Turkish, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit. --Thomas Paine, The Age of Reason|
|Reviewed by Paul Kogel
|You think you are asking for a scripture verse, but you are not. You are asking for an extensive study of scriptures. Below I have outlined some scriptures and a short ‘study’ that may help answer your questions. It is not an easy study but – well, it is the best I can do to answer your questions.
Lucifer is Latin (from the words lucem ferre), literally meaning "light-bearer" or “Day Star”.
Isaiah 14: 12 – Lucifer is called “Sun of the Morning” translate word ‘Lucifer’ as “Day Star”.
Verse 13 – Lucifer determines to ...”ascend into heaven” – and to “…exalt my throne above the stars of God” and to “…sit upon the mount of the congregation” (which is God’s throne).
Verse 14 – Lucifer determines to “…ascend above the heights of the clouds” and to “…be like the most High.”
Ezekiel 28 – (Here speaking to the Prince of Tyrus – the devel as it relates to his work with the nation of Tarshish. (vrs 1-10 after the fall / vrs 11-19 before the fall) – Lucifer called the ‘anointed cherub that covereth’ and ‘O covering cherub’. This is not an earthly king, as the word "cherub" is only used in references to angels.)
13Thou hast been in Eden the garden of God (the Earthly King of Tarshish was not in Edon – Lucifer was); every precious stone was thy covering, the sardius, topaz, and the diamond, the beryl, the onyx, and the jasper, the sapphire, the emerald, and the carbuncle, and gold: the workmanship of thy tabrets and of thy pipes was prepared in thee in the day that thou wast created. 14Thou art the anointed cherub (an angle consecrate or make sacred for the service of God) that covereth; and I have set thee so (God made him so): thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire. 15Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created (he was created perfect), till iniquity was found in thee (he did this to himself). 16By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God (out of Heaven): and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. 17Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty (God does not lightly call anyone beautiful), thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness (by reason of his brightness, Lucifer reasoned – this is that part of my article where I said that he said “something like…” – of course exactly what he said in his heart, the exact words and to whom, is unknown): I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.
Other terms identified with Satan include "the prince of this world" (note the term ‘prince’ and ‘of this world’) in the John 12:31, 14:30; "the prince of the power of the air" (again ‘prince’ is used) also called Meririm, and "the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience" in the Ephesians 2:2; and "the god of this world" in 2 Corinthians 4:4. (As Satan is the “god of this world”, I make my case of Satan’s control over the Earth in my article.)
The below portion copied form Wikipedia on Satan. It says it as plainly as anything else I have read. Note the part about “inference”. I have underlined that point. That’s because – you asked for a specific quote, and there is none. It is reasoned, soundly I think, by an extensive study of the Bible from Genesis to Revelations – both old and new Testaments:
In mainstream Christianity's understanding of the holy Hebrew scriptures, the Torah, Satan is a synonym for the Devil. For most Christians, he is believed to be an angel who rebelled against God—and also the one who spoke through the serpent and seduced Eve into disobeying God's command. His ultimate goal is to lead people away from the love of God — to lead them to fallacies which God opposes. Satan is also identified as the accuser of Job, the tempter in the Gospels, the secret power of lawlessness in 2 Thessalonians 2:7, and the dragon in the Book of Revelation. Before his insurrection, Satan was among the highest of all angels and the “brightest in the sky”. His pride is considered a reason why he would not bow to God as all other angels did, but sought to rule heaven himself. The popularly held beliefs that Satan was once a prideful angel who eventually rebels against God, however, are barely portrayed explicitly in the Bible and are mostly based on inference (e.g., Ezekiel 28). In mainstream Christianity he is called "the ruler of the demons" (Matt. 12:24), "the ruler of the world" and "the god of this world". (2 Cor. 4:4). The Book of Revelation describes how Satan will be cast out of Heaven, down to the earth, having "great anger" and waging war against "those who obey God's commandments and hold to the testimony of Jesus". Ultimately, Satan is thrown into the "lake of fire" (Revelation 20:10), not as ruler, but as one among many, being tormented day and night for all eternity.
This should get you started. There is much, much more.
|Reviewed by arthur cevallos
|March 22, 2010
I'm very sorry, but was the question too hard for you. I just want you to point out to me where in the bible does it say all the things that you said about what took place when these angels rebelled against God. You begin your explanation with a verse from the book of Isaiah chapter 14. Paul, the rest of the world knows that this chapter is about the King of Babylon and has nothing to do with your mythological creature called Satan. You mentioned that you've been to Wikipedia, please look up the word Satan and you will see a great explanation of how this word is actually an adjective and not a noun. Also, I'm sure that you very well know that there is only one God - and we know that because there are so many references to this statement being made: 2 Samuel 7:22, 1 Kings 8:60, Deuteronomy 32:39, Isaiah 44:6 and on and on...
Paul, if there is only one God that is the god of heaven and the earth, then how can there be another little god running around causing havoc.
Paul, I believe that you need to learn about the word Satan and found out what it means. I have a great link for you that will give you a great explanation about the history of Satan and how the name came to mean the god of this world http://www.religioustolerance.org/chr_sat2.htm
This will get you started. Please reply after you have gone out and done some research about the origin of the word Satan and also is there one god or more than one god.
Thanks for replying so quick, but take your take for the next reply. You are right, there is so much more information to give you but just not enough time right now. I hope that I continue to hear from you for many years to come.
Hi Paul, I just read your review and I must say that you are a great fiction writer. The story that you've created is right out of a Hollywood movie. Can I ask you one question, where did you find the following information that you posted:
"This is what took place. Now, there was this angel - the Angel of Light, the most perfectly beautiful of all the angels, who said in his heart, then to other angels, something like... "If God is perfect, than He created us perfect. So since, we are perfect, we need no God. We do not need His laws - we can have our own laws and make them according to our perfect judgment." In this way, he thought himself to be equal with God who had created him. He caused one-third of the angels to follow him in a rebellion against God and lost. He was cast out of heaven and was caused to live in a place called the firmament. Thus was the fall of one third of the angels. This angel, now called Satan, hated God and set in his heart (since he failed at taking God's throne) that he would hurt God in the worst possible way. He would destroy - steal away - God's most beloved possession...mankind."
I know that I've read the Bible and I continue to read it, but I just can't seem to find the story that you've concocted. Are you sure that you're not quoting from another book called "The Book of Enoch"? which is not a scriptural book.
By the way, I'm not one of those people that want to kick against it or even hate it. However, I am one of those people that likes to set things straight.
Just for the record, where exactly did you find the following quote that you made:
""Now, there was this angel - the Angel of Light, the most perfectly beautiful of all the angels, who said in his heart, then to other angels, something like... "If God is perfect, than He created us perfect. So since, we are perfect, we need no God."
Hope to hear from you soon.
|Reviewed by Susan Smith
|Thanks for posting this.
With a potential of a million and half readers per month to this site, you have picked a wonderful place "to fish."