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Neptune Ingress into Pisces 2012
By Shane P Ward   
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As we head towards 2012 I noted that Pluto would ingress into Capricorn in 2008 (see article here) then Uranus into Aries in 2011 followed by Neptune into Pisces in 2012. Together they may create some significant world changes - and maybe we need them! Welcome to what the Chinese called 'interesting times'.

Neptune Ingress into Pisces 2012


On 2 May 2004 I wrote about Pluto’s ingress into Capricorn. I speculated about what might arise from it, based on Pluto’s accepted astrological mundane attributes and where those attributes resonate with historical evidence of the past. At the time of writing this article I have reason to believe that my method to extract information about Pluto in 2008 is working well enough for me to pursue the same method for Neptune’s ingress into Pisces on 3rd February 2012.
Before delving into the relevant history, we should get a flavour of Neptune’s energy. Neptune is the planet associated with Pisces and the 12th house in the astrological zodiac. It takes about 14 years to travel through one sign. Neptune is regarded as a generational planet, taking 172 years to orbit the Sun. Neptune is associated with all things gaseous or liquid. It has the capacity to dissolve anything that Saturn, the planet of limitation and form, structures. It rules ethics, ideals and aspirations.
Neptune is associated with: the arts, glamour, hope, idealism, covert actions, socialism; hospitals, charitable institutions and the navy. Under affliction it can be associated with muddle, confusion, fraud, crime, scandal; brewing and alcohol, drugs; chemicals, oils, footwear.
Neptune was discovered only a few years before it ingressed into Pisces in 1848. Having had no recordable influence over events before its discovery, it was interesting to see if anything significant could be tied into previous ingresses. However, before Neptune was attributed to the 12th house (Jupiter was the original ruler), it should be noted that the 12th house was already associated with prisons, hospitals, homes for the aged; philanthropic societies; secret societies; monasteries and institutional religion.
So with all that in mind, what should we expect to see when Neptune passes into Pisces? Will there be revolutions? Will we see dramatic changes within the larger institutions like hospitals and prisons? Is it possible to embrace a new air of religious tolerance? Or will we experience a greater rise in the abuse of drugs, a rise in crime and allow the world to be led unwillingly by the ever growing dominance of oil and other sources of liquid and gas energy?
History teaches us many things. Often we break down periods of history in terms of decades and centuries or by the ruler-ship of a monarch / emperor / president / political party. What I am going to do is review some history over the last four periods of Neptune’s 14 year rule in Pisces.
1356 – 1370
The Hundred Years War started in 1337 and lasted until 1453 and it is interesting to note that the war started around a weakened state of the German low countries; meaning that power had dissolved, which is a very Neptunian trait. Edward the III was broke and had to borrow very large sums of money from private banks. The French waged a campaign at sea, harrying the English South coast. Nothing of value was achieved and the Black Death of 1348 – 1350 delayed any concerted effort by King Edward to wage war further. The first decisive battle was made eventually by the Black Prince in 1356, where King John II of France was captured and ransomed heavily. Peace reigned from 1360 to 1369.
The Golden Bull (a Papal dictat) 1356 was mostly written down in a document known as the ‘Declaration at Rhense’ from 1338. Basically it was to ensure that only a majority of electors were required to elect a King of the Romans, who would later become the Holy Roman Emperor and then (possibly) Pope. The idea of the Golden Bull was to eliminate power struggles by those who were described at the time as ‘envious and ambitious politicians. No difference there then.
In 1356 Zhu Yuanzhang captured the city of Nanjing from the Mongol-led Yuan Dynasty in China; from then on it would become his base of power and the capital of a new dynasty he would establish in 1368, the Ming Dynasty.
1520 - 1533
The religious theme picks up here again with the Protestant Reformation (1517 – 1648), which was also known as the Protestant Revolution. Martin Luther criticized the practices of the church for many of its practices. He also questioned the authority of the Pope, citing the bible as the only true authority. He was rewarded in 1521 by being excommunicated. Further reformations occurred throughout Europe and in England where Henry VIII dared to defy the Pope and actively separated the Anglican Church from Roman authority. Henry married Anne Boleyn in 1533.
The Peasants Revolt (1524 – 1525) in Germany (mostly) was apparently the largest uprising among the common people of Europe, second only to the French Revolution (1789 – 1799). The usual suspects were responsible for the uprising: relief from oppressive taxes, arbitrary justice systems, high debts and costly ecclesiastic privileges. (As clerical and political aspirations have always been hard to separate, one might almost perceive a similarity to the UK’s politicians trying (and failing) to hide thousands of pounds in expenses and then when they get found out they have the brass neck to demand a 60% pay rise, when forcing all around them to accept less than 2%). It is argued that part of the uprising was in direct relation to the ongoing Protestant Reformation. Unlike France in 1789, the peasants lost their battle but the pace of change against the Roman Catholic Church continued unabated.
Suleiman the Magnificent ruled at the zenith of the Ottoman Empire 1520 – 1566. In 1521 he took Belgrade, a Christian stronghold, which sent ripples of fear through Europe.
1684 – 1697
1684 seems to culminate and mark the end of the age of reason (Newton for example) to make way for the age of enlightenment. Philosophies were important in influencing the US Bill of Rights, which embodied many of the aspirations of the freedoms enjoyed by people, in the Western world at least, in the 21st Century.
James II was King of England from 1685 – 1688. The effect of a catholic King opposing a protestant Parliament was unworkable. The result was that Parliament deposed the Catholic king in favour of a protestant king. They invited William of Orange to walk in from the Netherlands unopposed to claim the throne.
The treaty of Ratisbone (1684) was signed by the French and the Spanish in an attempt to call an end to the era of piracy. Naturally it did not succeed but I mention it here to demonstrate that activities on the high seas were under scrutiny at the time.
1687 Isaac Newton publishes ‘Philosophiae Naturalis Principia Mathematica’, containing the three laws of motion, including that well known esoteric maxim of ‘cause and effect’. One presumes he thought of it a few years before he published it.
Salem witch trials occurred in1692.
As a point of interest, although outside the scope of Neptune in Pisces, the year 1700 sees rise of philosophy and decline of authoritarian rule. The 1700s also marked the scientific and industrial revolutions of the time. These examples may be useful for anyone who wishes to consider how Neptune in Aries might reshape the ambitions of the world (30 March 2025).
1847 - 1861
The unrest in 1848 was hardly a surprise. The groundswell of discontent had been rumbling for years; going back as far as the French Revolution of 1789. The Western world was no longer happy to be told what to do. The time had come for democracy and self determination. Many changes of the late nineteenth century could trace their origins to this period.
1848 revolution in France (the right to work) that ended the reign of King Louis-Phillippe (the last king to rule France), and led to the creation of the French second republic.
Other revolutions: Italian states, German states, Hapsburg Empire, Hungary, Poland, Wallachia (Romania), Brazil (American Civil War suggested delayed by death of President Zachary Taylor in 1851 although it would still begin just one day before Neptune ingressed into Aries). Italy was unified in 1861. Germany was unified in 1871.
Even in China there was rebellion. The Nian Rebellion (1853-1868) was one in a series of peasant uprisings but this particular rebellion was caused by an economic crisis involving floods and devastation of crops. In short there was a significant food crisis.
In every case, the revolutions appeared to have achieved little and yet much changed over the next 20 years. Things could have occurred much quicker if the revolutionaries had better solidarity and leadership. The ideals, however, remained in the collective unconscious. The rich, none the less, did everything they could to pacify the dissenters while consolidating their wealth. Even in those days the rich were disinclined to share.
Revolutions throughout the whole world occurred with tens of thousands of people killed. Mainly this was a revolution between the haves and the have nots. Rising industrialization / lower living standards (Consider the current Industrialisation in China particularly). The United Kingdom escaped revolution due in part to the Representation of the People Act 1832 (sometimes known as the Great Reform Act) that changed the voting system. It was to be the beginning of a number of political changes, including the rise of the Suffrage Movement. Russia escaped because of dreadful communication between revolutionary forces. The Ottoman Empire only suffered minor political unrest. There appeared to be an underlying theme of liberalism, nationalism and socialism in many areas of conflict, particularly as the industrial revolution eroded the foundation of land ownership and peasants tied to it.
It is arguable whether the population growth in Europe contributed to the rise of the Industrial Revolution or vica versa but what the rise in population did do is lead to food shortage that prompted the need for mass migration. Where people were drawn towards work there came a price. As industrial towns and cities grew ever more in concentration, the conditions for disease became high. There is, however, no evidence that I could find that linked Neptune in Pisces to triggering any significant outbreak that could not be found at any time regardless of Neptune’s astrological position.*
The year 1848 appears to have been a particularly busy one. On 1 February 1848, in Germany, one would have discovered the first publication of the Communist Manifesto by Karl Marx. The Potato famine in Ireland (the blight originated in Belgium), caused mass migration to England and America. Ireland was particularly affected because of a dreadful decision to grow virtually only potatoes in Ireland. It started in 1845 but in 1848 there was an uprising against the Government which was crushed. In February 1848 the Mexican war ended with the United States gaining what is now the modern USA / Mexico border. It is perhaps interesting to note the California gold rush was 1849 and one wonders if this particular resource was known just a few years earlier.
1853 Elisha Otis sold his First safety elevator – a moving room (not fixed) if you like.
This one was a particularly interesting find. In 1854 Benjamin Silliman was one of the first American professors of science to fractionate petroleum and the first to distill petroleum. His report on it is often credited as being the initial thrust for the advancement of the petroleum refining industry and the expansion of oil as an illuminating fuel.
1854-1856 Crimean War ‘Modern conflict’ that led to changes affecting the future course of how wars were fought. Curiously enough, many lessons learned from this war came out of its demonstration on how not to wage a war. Religion was once again used as an excuse to promote conflict. The war was started because of a dispute over who had authority in the Holy Land. Nearly three quarters of the dead were killed by disease rather than war. The Mexican War was the first photographed war – the Crimean war was the second.
1856 First discovery of Neanderthal Man
1859 Charles Darwin publishes the Origin of Species – the first challenge of science to the belief in creationism.
The historical evidence of the last four ingresses of Neptune into Pisces suggest a theme of rebellion by the people over the established authorities of the time. Therefore both religious and political belief systems must figure highly in what may come for us in 2012. Debt, death and hardship also figure quite prominently, not that they didn’t in other periods of world history but notable swings from the established way of life to something new seem to have emanated from them. There is no evidence of some cataclysmic change of events. If anything one can almost see the slow dissolution of old and outdated practices gradually coming to terms with a new set of ideals and conditions. Anything that Neptune has to offer is unlikely to come in with a bang. More likely it will trickle through the minds of the collective unconscious over a period of time, however, the changes may still be quite profound.
And why should we feel the need to change at all? Perhaps one only has to consider the effects of poor leadership, failed treaties, food shortages and poverty as likely triggers for the need to change. If you look at this paragraph we could well be talking about what appears to be happening in the world right now (2008). Consider the following:
(Failed Treaties) The United Nations has spent an enormous amount of time and effort trying to finalise a world trade agreement. There seems to be a rush to get the thing signed before the new US administration in November 2008 but signing something doesn’t automatically guarantee that the agreement will be effective. The ideal is good but it may take some considerable time to make it effective.
(Food shortages) There is already rebellion in some countries over the ever growing food shortage. Oil prices have had such a major impact on the cost of food that everyone is starting to find their living standards compromised. It is curious to note also that, in order to reduce our reliance on petroleum products, the manufacture of certain bio-fuel products is contributing to the food shortage.
(Poverty) Many efforts have been made by governments to reduce poverty but usually the attitude of ‘what’s in it for me’ makes most attempts an exercise in futility. Poverty is also relative to people’s expected standard of living. In the UK there is a threat of house repossessions, fuelled by demand outstripping supply and the ‘credit crunch’ originating from the USA affecting economies in Europe. Poverty in Africa is much more serious. Millions of people are displaced in Sudan due to war and a Government unwilling to help its own people. Likewise Zimbabwe has hyper-inflation due to a despotic regime also unwilling to help its own people. Neptune in Pisces will, in my opinion, highlight what doesn’t work.
Political, religious and altruistic ideals have an opportunity to grow but not without opposition from current institutions. For as long as the general populace encourage institutions to continue by attending to them, the longer it will take for change to force them onto a path that supports the people rather than their profit or ideals. If something doesn’t work then we must seek an alternative path wherever we can but this is not always possible. If history shows us anything it shows that disorganised rebellion is doomed to failure and at a massive cost to the little guy. On the other hand the inexorable advance of progress, like the trickle of water on rock, erodes institutional stubbornness to embrace the inevitable advance of evolution.
Neptune ingresses into Pisces on 3 February 2012. It makes aspect with Pluto in an outgoing Septile of 52degrees, similar in aspect to Neptune’s ingress in 1520. What is significant, however, is the most recent ingress of Uranus into Aries and Jupiter into Taurus. Saturn is about to ingress into Scorpio. So Neptune’s position aspects all outer planets at the time of ingress. Clearly there is a growing unrest about the nature of the theatre in which we live our lives; enough to resonate into tangible concerns but not necessarily a clear way out. Under the spotlight will undoubtedly be the large institutions; in the UK this would be the National Health Service, prisons, transport, education, police and civil service. They will be under the spotlight because of how much they cost to run and how can we afford to pay for them. Also under the spotlight will be the cost of water, gas, electricity and car fuel. All are massive issues and none of the problems associated with them can be resolved by throwing ever increasingly large amounts of money at them. We’ve done that already and it didn’t work.
One must always remember that Neptune is a generational planet, meaning that we have to consider broad brushstrokes rather than specific one-off events. The 1356 ingress saw a significant change in the European political map that had far reaching implications. 1520 the Protestant reformation eroded the grip of the Catholic Church. 1684 saw the last Catholic King on the UK throne, whilst Newton changed the thoughts of men for generations to come.1847 presided over revolutions that spelt the death of feudal systems. So one may wonder which institution in 2012 will be necessarily undermined or fatally wounded – but for the greater good of all?
The underlying question of ‘sustainability’ seems to permeate through the Neptune ingresses into Pisces. Institutions and dynasties have fallen in its wake, albeit an often slow and protracted demise. While Pluto sits in the earth sign of Capricorn, however, one would expect that any challenge to authorities and institutions will be material. Is it significant that Pluto sits at 8 degrees of Capricorn at the point of Neptune’s ingress into Pisces, applying to the Sun in every country with a New Year Chart? The Capricorn Cancer axis demonstrates the old husband and wife roles of the bread winner (Capricorn) and the home maker (Cancer). If the bread winner finds it more difficult to bring home food, the home maker must protect the future of the home by tightening the family belt.
The same principle applies to nations facing uncertainty of resource. Is it telling right now that nations are paying the price for greed? Neptune in Aquarius implies big institutions wanting to be your friend. Individuals in the financial markets earning millions of pounds in a sudden merit driven bonanza. Little people get caught up in the notion that it is fine to extend ones credit beyond ones means and borrow beyond the point of being able to pay. Then along comes the credit crunch and now it doesn’t seem so sustainable for millions of home owners who face repossession.
Instability in oil producing countries (plus the odd hurricane) has inflated oil prices almost five-fold. This has put the price up of all transported goods, including food, to levels where people on fixed incomes, pensioners mostly, are having to decide between heating and eating. To make matters worse, food shortages have occurred through a combination of population growth, bad harvests and now the usurping of corn for making bio-fuel. In 2008 the world’s food reserves are reputed to be at 11%. In the UK, home owners may have overstretched themselves spending up to 75% of their income on a mortgage. In Bangladesh, the lower paid workers are spending up to 50% of their daily wages on a bag of rice! From just one year ago, rice is up 74% and wheat 120%. The sustainability of food for the world is already with us. The question is whether the world’s businesses will stabilise food production and help bring the price of food down, or do what everyone else has done so far and settle for profiteering? All this is happening today but it is only four years to Neptune’s ingress. I say only four years but if we see a sustained assault on people’s ability to afford housing, food, energy and security – then four years of it is enough to see a massive rebellion like the world has never seen.
With the price of oil rocketing now, will it prompt a sudden proliferation in the attractiveness of nuclear energy plants? How much will that undermine oil producing companies? While nuclear power is an unpopular choice for energy it might well become a cheaper option in the long run?
Fishing rights will be a clear concern. Sustainable fishing policies are already under discussion and it is no surprise that the world’s current policies have not protected fish that are in danger of being fished to the edge of extinction. The European Union is already trying to get fishing rights off of West African coast as the ocean’s stock elsewhere is disappearing. Certainly there appears to be no tangible policy that exists today to protect fish stocks for the future, so it might not be so foolish to conjecture that fishing policy – particularly industrial fishing, which although it is only 15% of the fishing industry it accounts for 80% of fish caught – will have to be examined very closely indeed.
There seems to be a clear indication of prices going up and not coming down. Sacrifices not made for some time will suddenly become necessary; something unknown to the generation of wage earners under 35. The spectre of rising unemployment is likely to join the list of unpleasant things to expect. As people have less money to spend so leisure and entertainment industries will feel the pinch particularly. Pass-times and pursuits that do not cost money may suddenly experience a welcome revival. There will be many reasons to reflect on the state of the world and how we came to be in such a state.
People in the UK might experience Neptune’s influence a little later than others because of the 2012 Olympics. Andre Barbault’s scale, possibly known to some mundane astrologers but strangely absent from the internet, worked on placing astrological fact to historical events – a bit like this article. In short, the Barbault Scale is a plus or minus total derived from the distance between two planets on their cycle with each other. A conjunction is zero degrees apart, an outward going square is +90, opposition +180. One degree further is an incoming cycle and is therefore (minus) -179, an incoming square -90 and all the way down to zero again. Barbault added all the cycles from Jupiter to Pluto. The biggest minuses appeared in the years of the First and Second World Wars. Similar plunges occurred at the Wall St crash and the financial slump of the early 90s. 2009 shows a big minus, which will reflect the current credit crunch and only 2012 shows a nice healthy plus. From 2013 to 2021 it does not look good for the world economy. And we really need to be careful around 2016 not to let the global mood plummet into unreasonable thoughts and actions.
On the 2012 Neptune ingress chart Jupiter and Saturn, the societal planets, are in opposition. The conjunction (in Taurus) was back in the year 2000 when Pluto in Sagittarius was dealing with globalization and Neptune sat in freedom loving Aquarius. The conjunction made an outgoing square to Uranus, challenging our accepted parameters of behaviour. Living on credit became acceptable, whilst living within affordable parameters was almost a socially odd way to behave. Pluto’s ingress into Capricorn started to uncover the cost of this behaviour, bringing to light the consequences of unfettered spending and imprudence. One of the chief culprits of this unprecedented spending spree was the incessant obsession with ‘targets’. Meeting targets meant big payout bonuses for some; millions of pounds in bonuses that drove up the cost of luxury items and property. So the finance guys made millions by getting the little guys to borrow millions. It was hardly ethical but targets attract greed for profit. Even now that the credit crunch has stopped the financial world in its tracks, the banks still want us to pay for their short sightedness. This is the sort of behaviour that generates Neptunian rebellion against institutions that remain indifferent to our suffering as long as they make money. Pehaps Neptune returning home may dissolve the obsession with targets in preference to a more collective achievement policy.
I think it would be safe to say that the rising cost of living will make us a bit more careful about how we spend our money, how much we waste in terms of food, how much packaging we have to recycle and how much energy we use unnecessarily. Perhaps the world needs a bit of hardship to appreciate what we have and to care more for the way we treat our environment. The world’s resources are finite and as the human population grows there is even more reason to be more conscious about the resources we use.
The Neptune ingress into Pisces chart shows a Mars (virgo)/ Venus (Pisces). An examination into the Father / Mother parental role is undoubtedly on the agenda. Likewise will be an ever growing concern over the ethics and practices around abortion, cloning and testing on hybrid cells. With Uranus ‘freeing up’ new and innovative ideas as it travels through Aries means that many controversial decisions could be made despite mounting opposition. Uranus would have ingressed into Aries only 11 months earlier, suggesting that big changes are likely to occur in rapid succession – some that the world may not be ready for.
Neptune is Trine Saturn at last minute of Libra, suggesting a closer examination of human rights in prison systems, captivity situations and oppressive regimes. One would hope that the likes of Guantanamo will be dismantled and should never happen again. Questions of the US over human rights issues must be answered before questioning the practices of other countries. There should never be an excuse for inhuman treatment.
Governments may question the sustainability of free health systems. As the UK pays the price for an open immigration policy, its infrastructure may not cope unless a halt is called to any new immigrants. As the health of the economy deteriorates it will become second nature for countries to prevent outside forces eroding their stability and infrastructure. The UK National Health Service is already under stress due to an increase in population, particularly through uncontrolled and also illegal immigration. The situation reminds me of the Vietnamese boat people of the late 70s. The boats became dangerously overcrowded to the point where it looked likely to sink. If immigration continues unabated, the UK National Health System will sink. I offer this stern warning to the UK Government to act now before it is too late.
Crime and drugs must surely be addressed. The UK prisons are overflowing, gun and knife crime grows among the youth and drugs are never far behind the cause. The world has to get to grips with drug related crime. More and more border patrols or more police has all been tried. It is like trying to capture the ocean tide with a fishing net. We don’t need more police – we need less crime. The selling of drugs is there because there is money to be made from it. The world has to find a way to make the market of drugs worthless. Only then will the selling of drugs and drug related crime slowly disappear. In 2012 no one will listen of course. Neptune can cause uproar but not speedy solutions. The old established institutions are in need of very careful, thorough and robust scrutiny. The criminal system is but one example.
Neptune is made of the stuff that raises passion, heartfelt beliefs and rises against the walls of injustice. The tide of human rebellion is already growing and I expect to see the world’s big corporations, banks and other financially wealthy institutions batten down the hatches and try to ride out the storm. But somehow I suspect that we, the masses, are simply going to shrug our shoulders and be al philosophical about it – not with Uranus in Aries, which will be the next planet to consider in the light of how Pluto and Neptune have set the world stage.
*Worldwide Pandemics 1732 – 1733 (Neptune in Gemini) Influenza 1775 – 1776 (Neptune in Virgo) Influenza 1816 – 1826 Neptune in Sagittarius – moving to Capricorn 1823) Cholera 1847-1848 (Neptune in  Aquarius) Influenza 1852 – 1860 (Neptune in Pisces) Cholera 1855 – 1950 (Neptune in Pisces and running through to Libra) Bubonic Plague 1857 – 1859 (Neptune in Pisces) Influenza 1899 – 1923 (Neptune in Gemini running through to Leo) Cholera 1918 – 1920 (Neptune in Leo) Avian Flu (Spanish Flu) 1960s (Neptune in Scorpio) Cholera 1980s (Neptune in Sagittarius), HIV 1980 and ongoing.


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Reviewed by Lorri Proctor 1/14/2011
A very thoughtful and well researched article. I practised astrology for years and wrote many articles but have 'retired' from so doing. So it's a delight to read your take on current planetary movements. I like, a good overall look at things in the light of historical cycles. I'm too lazy and old to do it myself any more so am glad of your splendid effort.
Reviewed by - - - - - TRASK 5/31/2008
You Sure Went Lot Trouble Write This,i.e. I Don't Buy Astrology...

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