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I found this today and wanted to add it to the research here. Please read all of it!
Something God gave me today. I really needed this.
by Marcia Roberts Mikels on Tuesday, September 11, 2012 at 11:29am ·

After seven hurtful years of Christians I know not being supportive of the kids and I and believing my ex as he has lied about me and manipulated, I really believe that God just gave me this and what I think is, why couldn't I have it sooner? I needed it more before but, God is good and I am thankful to have found this, Biblical support for women leaving abusive spouses! Praise God!







WIFE ABUSE

Pastor Jones preached a message from 1 Corinthians 13

about the love of God and how we are to show love to one

another. Everyone told him what a great sermon it was. But

on the ride home with his wife and children he was very angry

and would not speak to anyone. His wife thought, "Oh, no!

What have I done this time?" When they got home, she took

the chicken and other food from the oven, placed it on the

table, and sat down next to her husband. His face got very

red, and he said, "What is this garbage, chicken again?" With

his hand he scraped the bowl of chicken and all of the plates

and glasses off onto the floor. His children sat at the table

paralyzed with fear. Then he screamed at his wife, "Who was

that man you were talking to in the back of the church?" She

said, "I don't remember, just some member of the church." He

said, "You dirty prostitute!" And he slapped her so hard that

her chair tipped over backwards. She got up, crying, and ran

into the bathroom.

This kind of abuse went on for 16 years until he eventually

filed for divorce. He said God told him to leave her. He

quickly remarried the church secretary. The church sided with

the pastor and kicked her out of the church. This is a true

story.

Then there is the story of Elaine, a middle-aged woman

who attended an Assemblies of God church with her husband,

Edward. He was the church's head deacon and everyone

thought he was a wonderful Christian, but he was privately

abusing his wife. If he had a hard day on his job, or if the car

wouldn't start, or if Elaine said or did something that upset

him, he would erupt into a fit of rage, cursing and slapping

and hitting her. She learned to cover up her bruises with

makeup. Her life was in turmoil. She didn't tell anyone at

church about her husband's behavior. She assumed it was her

fault and kept trying to adjust her own behavior so he wouldn't

explode. Finally, after several violent episodes, she went to

see the pastor.

The pastor had known Edward for a long time. He couldn't

believe this good Christian man was doing anything wrong.

And Edward was the head deacon. What would people say if

they learned he had been beating his wife? It would be an

embarrassment to the church. He said to Elaine, "He's your

husband. He has authority over you. You must be making

him angry. You just need to learn to submit." Elaine was

devastated. Just as she suspected, it was all her fault. On two

other occasions Elaine returned for pastoral counseling,

hoping that the pastor would help her. One time she said

Edward was getting more violent and she was afraid for her

life. The pastor said, "I can't believe it's that serious. If you

just love him and submit, God will change the situation. You

just keep praying for him, and everything will be all right.

Remember that God hates divorce, so you are not allowed to

leave him."

A friend of Elaine's realized how serious the situation was

and told her to get out of the house immediately, but Elaine

was so beat down by her husband's abuse that she didn't have

any strength left. Elaine said, "The pastor said it is not God's

will for me to leave him." A few months later, Edward killed

Elaine. This Christian woman was murdered by her own

husband, a deacon in a Pentecostal church. This is a true

story, and it is not unique.

The Apostle Paul told Timothy that a man given to anger is

not qualified to serve in ministry. Paul says that bishops,

deacons, and pastors: "Must not be given to wine, not violent,

not greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, or

covetous, (and so forth)." (1 Tim.3:1-10)

Every year in the United States over five million women are

assaulted by their husbands or boyfriends, about 2,000 are

murdered, and all the surveys report that being in the church

doesn't make any difference! (In Latin America, in more than

25% of marriages the wives are assaulted by their husbands.)

Many pastors say, "That kind of thing is not going on in my

church!" Yes, it is going on in your church. You are just

hiding your eyes and refusing to see it, to confront it, to help

the poor women and children that are being abused. In fact,

the The Rapha Treatment Center in Dallas, Texas, reports that

many of the calls from abused wives are not only from

Christians, but from pastor's wives.

Let me stop and say something. I feel very strongly about

this, because I was an abuser. I emotionally and verbally

abused my wife (not my children, thank the Lord), for many

years, and I built up so much hatred that I came close to

abusing her physically. Doris was growing afraid of me. God

have mercy on me! And He did. He rescued me from that

trap, and my wife and I grew to love and respect each other.

This did not happen quickly or easily. It took a lot of dying to

self by both of us. But God gave us grace to do it. It was

liberating. God did not hate me, He loved me. But if I had

continued on that path, if I had not repented and cried out to

God for help, I would have destroyed my marriage, my

children (who are affected by the relation of their father and

mother), my ministry, and my own soul. I'm not preaching a

message of condemnation, but one of healing and hope. If

God could rescue me He can rescue anyone.

I have been in ministry for over 50 years and heavily

involved in counseling ministry for 36 years, and I have heard

endless stories from wives and children of Christians - stories

of abuse by Christian husbands and fathers (and also abuse by

Christian wives and mothers) until it makes me sick. And I'll

tell you something else: it makes God sick. It is an

abomination to God! Listen to these words from Malachi that

we all know so well, (from the Amplified): "For the Lord, the

God of Israel, says, 'I hate divorce and him who covers his

garment (his wife) with violence. Therefore, keep a watch

upon your spirit (be controlled by my Spirit) that you deal not

treacherously and faithlessly with your mate." God is telling

us to be controlled by His Spirit, the spirit of love, gentleness,

and kindness, not by a spirit of anger and rage and violence.

Listen to what God says to His people, to Christians, in

Ephesians 5:22: "Wives, submit to your own husbands, as to

the Lord. For the husband is head of the wife, as also Christ

is head of the church…" Well, there you are. God tells wives

to submit to their husbands. But note what God says to

everyone in the church, including husbands and wives, in

5:21: "Submit to one another in the fear of God." And what

does it mean to submit? The Greek word for submission,

hupotasso, means something an individual imposes on himself

or herself. I choose to submit, hupotasso, to you. If you

impose your authority over me, that is suppression,

domination, not submission! Submission cannot be

demanded from another individual or imposed upon one

person by another. That distorts the meaning of Scripture.

And yet it is common for Christian husbands, and even non-

Christian husbands, to say to their wives, "The Bible says you

have to submit to me!" The Bible also says that we all,

particularly husbands, are to submit to Christ. Ah, here is the

comparison we need to make. How does Christ rule over us?

With love, not with domination, anger, cursing, hitting. He is

our example.

It is crucial that we understand this point: For a

husband to say, "The Bible says you have to submit to

me!" is similar to him saying, "The Bible says you have to

love me! So I demand that you love me!" Impossible!

Love is something that one person freely and willingly

chooses to give to another. It cannot be forced or imposed

upon another. If a husband will love his wife as Christ

loved the church, with kindness and gentleness and

strength, he will win his wife's love and submission without

his demanding it.

So let's look at the men who abuse. (And let me say that

abuse is not restricted to men. There are situations where

wives emotionally and sometimes physically abuse their

husbands, and many cases where mothers verbally,

emotionally, and physically abuse their children. But since

men are the predominant abusers, I am presenting it primarily

from that perspective.)



Why Men Abuse

Most abusers come from abusive backgrounds. They lived

with fathers or mothers who argued, screamed, slapped,

hit, and sexually abused. They saw their mothers abused,

or they were abused themselves.

Some abusers have suffered a brain injury or another kind

of trauma.

Some are simply immature and unwilling to take

responsibility for their behavior. It is common for men to

refuse counseling and to blame their wives for any and all

problems. This pattern started a long time ago. Adam

said, "It was that woman that you gave me, God," thus

blaming his wife and God for the problem in the garden.

These men say, "I can't help myself, she pushes my

buttons."

Many of them abuse alcohol and drugs which fuels their

angry outbursts. The next day they may deny doing the

violent things they did.

Many have deep feelings of dissatisfaction with self, feel

weak, are loners with no friends, are full of pride and

cannot admit they need help.

They have negative attitudes toward women; many times

they were rejected and verbally or physically abused by

their mothers.

The need to control others forms the crux of violent

behavior.

Some abusers go through a three-step phase: (1) Tension

builds. Their spouse and children sense the tension and live

in dread of the coming explosion. (2) They explode in a

paroxysm of rage, verbal and physical abuse. (3) They act

remorseful and may even bring their wife flowers and

candy. (They may bring the flowers to the hospital unless

the wife has had the courage to call the police and have the

thug incarcerated.)

Many abusers say, "I love my wife!" That is a lie. The

way you treat people shows how you regard them. "Do

unto others as you would have them do unto you." If you

treat people with kindness, consideration, and gentleness,

you demonstrate love. If you curse and insult them, isolate

and deprive them of freedom, threaten, and beat them, in

what kind of bizarre universe could that be called love?

Things the Abuser Does

Prior to marriage, they may court their wife to be,

pretending to be a kind, committed Christian (Dr. Jekyll),

but shortly after marriage Mr. Hyde comes roaring out of

hiding.

They are angry. They explode upon the least provocation

or no provocation.

They criticize. They may criticize their wife's house

keeping. Some come home and inspect the house like a

drill sergeant, pointing out every flaw, while they curse the

wife and call her lazy, stupid and incompetent. They

criticize her in front of their children, family, and friends.

They may call her fat, ugly, etc. They blame all of their

children's problems on her.

They are jealous and possessive.

They control. They may isolate their wife from family and

friends. They make all the family decisions. They are

extremely selfish with money, sometimes not permitting

their wife to have access to checks or cash, and criticizing

the wife for spending money on groceries and clothes,

while they may throw money around on gambling, cars,

pickups, boats, alcohol and drugs, etc.

Some abusers play a helpless, depressed game, constantly

threatening to kill themselves.

Some abusers threaten their wives if they leave them.

They may say, "I will take the children away from you."

Or "I will find you and kill you if you leave me."

Sometimes they will kill a family dog or cat to instill terror

in their wife. And, of course, sometimes they do kill their

wives. We read of those cases in the paper regularly.



Women Who Are Abused

Many times they are repeating the pattern seen and learned

in their family of origin. Their father abused their mother

and the children, and they marry a man just like their

father.

Many are filled with self-rejection and self-hatred and feel

they deserve the abuse.

They feel guilty, responsible, and helpless. They lose all

self-respect and self-confidence. They are worn down by

the verbal and physical assaults until they don't have

strength to stand up for themselves and their children.

Sometimes they hide the abuse from their family and

friends and defend the abuser. They are thereby training

their children that the abuse is okay.

They are overwhelmed with fear. Remember that control

is witchcraft. This is a demonic situation from start to

finish. Satan is at work in abusive homes destroying every

member of the family.

Some come out of good, loving homes, and they are totally

shocked by the abuse that is heaped on them. They don't

know how to cope, they feel ashamed and responsible,

especially if their family, friends, and church tell them it is

their fault and that a good wife must submit no matter what

happens.

Their national culture, family culture, or church culture

may tell them that abuse by their husbands is normal and

must be accepted, even if they are killed.

Some are trapped economically, especially in Mexico and

Latin America. There is no social safety net, and they may

suffer deprivation to the point of starvation if they leave

their abusive mate. I have ministered to people in Mexico

who told me that when their father abandoned their family,

the mother worked 14 to 16 hours a day, leaving the

children alone and vulnerable all day, and they were so

hungry at times that they ate newspapers or dirt to put

something in their stomachs.



What Should Abused Women Do?

Pray. Meditate on the scriptures, especially the book of

Psalms.

Forgive your husband who is abusing you seventy times

seven times, that is to say, times without end.

Unforgiveness and bitterness will destroy your own soul,

and it will defile your children. (Hebrews 12:15) But

forgiving someone does not mean that you allow them to

continue to abuse you. Read the book, Boundaries, by

Henry Cloud.

Understand that abuse is wrong. Verbal abuse is wrong.

Emotional abuse is wrong. Physical abuse is wrong.

Sexual abuse is wrong. Abuse of your children is wrong,

and if you stand by and do nothing when your children are

abused, you are a party to the abuse.

Find someone knowledgeable to talk to, and seek wise

counsel. Be careful about going to pastors. Some are

helpful, but many will defend the abusive husband, blame

the wife, and take Scriptures out of context that they don't

understand. Actually, it is the nature of God they don't

understand. How can they possibly believe a loving God

would condone violent words, hatred, emotional torture,

physical assault of helpless women and children?

If the abuse is physical or sexual, call the police. Assault

is illegal, whether it is against a stranger, a friend, a

spouse, or a child.

If everything else fails, separate from the abuser. Take

your children and flee for your lives unless and until he

gets serious help and you see genuine heart change. Do

not believe quickly proffered apologies, vows of change,

etc. This is a deep problem, your husband is very sick

spiritually and emotionally, and it will take many months if

not years to effect a real transformation.

Staying in an abusive situation is not helping your

husband. It is doing just the opposite. His contempt for

you grows as you enable him to continue the violence. A

battered wife's options are very limited. Ultimately, the

only thing she can do is to separate and make him face

losing his family, with the hope that he will finally realize

that his conduct is not acceptable and seek genuine change.

Protect your children! They are being formed by these

experiences.

I realize that for some wives, it is simply not possible to

escape because of economic or other reasons. All you can

do is pray, forgive, and cry out to God for deliverance.

Know that this situation is not of God, He sees your tears,

and He grieves for you and your family.



The Church's Role

Preach and teach about this huge problem,

compassionately and courageously.

Offer classes and counseling for the abused and the

abusers.

If a woman or child tells you that she (or he) is being

abused, listen to them, respect them, and believe them, or

at least check out their story. You may need to offer them

shelter and protection.

Encourage the victim to call the police. If they will not do

so, then you must do so. Assault is against the law and

condoning it damages the victims and brings disrepute on

the church. Learn what the legal requirements are in your

state or area about reporting the abuse of children or

adults.

If the husband is a member of your fellowship, confront

him. Do this wisely and compassionately, but you must do

it.

It is a big mistake to pressure the wife to return to an

abusive husband. The abuser may pretend to be

remorseful and repentant, but healing for such people takes

a long time and much hard work.



Some Pertinent Scriptures

Over one hundred times the Bible says that abuse -

whether physical, verbal, emotional, or sexual - is wrong.

To the church: "Defend the poor and fatherless. Do

justice to the afflicted and needy. Deliver the poor and

needy; free them from the hand of the wicked."(Psalm

82:3-4)

"The violence of the wicked will destroy them, because

they refuse to do justice."(Pr. 21:7) (Can you imagine that

God says, "Violence is evil, it is wicked, you must not be

violent, except for your wife and children? It's all right

to curse and beat your wife or your children.")

"Whoever causes one of these little ones to sin, it would be

better if he had a millstone tied to his neck and he were

cast into the sea."(Matt. 18:1-6) - -Abuse wounds children

and inevitably causes them to sin through bitterness,

repeating the abusive conduct, etc.

"I hate divorce, and him who covers his garment (his wife)

with violence."(Mal. 2:16)

"Husbands, love your wives, and do not be harsh (bitter)

with them."(Col. 3:19)

"You married men should live considerately with your

wives, honoring the woman as physically the weaker, but

realizing that you are joint heirs of the grace of God, in

order than your prayers may not be hindered and cut off.

Otherwise you cannot pray effectively." (1Peter 3:7 AMP)

"Death and life are in the power of the tongue." (Prov.18:21)

"I say to you that whoever is angry with his brother

without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment. And

whoever says to his brother, 'You idiot!' shall be in danger

of the council. But whoever says, 'You fool! Shall be in

danger of hell fire." (Matthew 5:22) (We can surely substitute

"Your wife, your husband, your child" for the words "Your

brother.")

Is Christ Glorified by a Christian Wife Who Stays in an

Abusive Relationship?

Does a battered wife achieve any positive results by

remaining in that relationship? Does the suffering bring about

good for her, her children, her neighbors? Does her behavior

result in her husband's conversion? Does she learn something

from the experience, even if only endurance? Does the non-

Christian world marvel at her conduct and stand convicted by

her piety? Thousands of cases say NO.

The longer the abused woman remains in an abusive

situation, the more deterioration there is in her partner's

respect for her and in her own self-esteem. Her husband

increasingly despises her weakness. His contempt for her and

her faith intensifies. Children in such situations initially

support their mother, but after prolonged exposure to the

violence and her failure to do anything about it, they become

disillusioned with her and often begin to side with the abusive

father. Boys even as young as five or ten years old frequently

begin to copy the conduct of their father, cursing and hitting

their mother and sisters and growing up to replicate the

conduct in their marriages. Girls develop bitterness toward

their father and toward their mother for not protecting herself

and them, and they are likely to marry a man just like their

father and pass the curse on to their children.

If this woman is a Christian, she brings about the reverse of

Peter's intended effect (1 Peter 3:1-6) by remaining in an abusive

situation. Ultimately, the battered woman grows to despise

herself, her husband, and God, attaining neither personal

growth through discipline nor any effective witness to the non-

Christian world.



A Final Word to Those Who Abuse, and Especially to Christian Leaders Who Abuse Their Wives and Children


In 1973 I was the pastor of a large church, yet I hated my

wife and abused her verbally and emotionally. God, in His

mercy, rescued me. Part of His rescue involved His using

some people to cast many demons out of me. Prior to that

time I did not believe in a literal devil, nor did I believe that

demons could infest a Christian. Through a vision, God

showed me that I had been but a step away from eternal

destruction. Through that experience, I learned the fear of

God, a concept that is foreign to most Christians in our

churches. God called me specifically to minister to other

Christians, especially Christian leaders. I have observed many

godly pastors and leaders. They are men and women of

prayer, humility, and integrity. They are truly Christ-like,

living lives of love and sacrifice.

On the other hand, I have learned that much of the church is

in a deplorable condition. The lack of integrity in much of the

ministry is on a par with the congress of the United States.

There is much lying, stealing, greed, jealousy, selfish

ambition, manipulation and control by pastors and other

leaders in churches. I have personally seen and experienced

these things in ministering in scores of different churches

during the past 36 years. This is nothing new. The New

Testament has many warnings about false leaders from the

beginning of the church. Jesus warns about false prophets,

starting at Matthew 7:15. Paul warns about false apostles in 2

Corinthians, chapters 10 and 11. Peter warns about false

teachers and pastors in 2 Peter, chapter 2. Jude warns about

false teachers. In fact, most of the epistles in the New

Testament were written in part to correct false teachings and

false practices. Jesus tells us how to separate the true from the

false: not by the gift of discernment, because we can easily be

misled, but "By their fruits you will know them." (Mt. 7:20) We

have to observe the lives and actions of leaders to determine if

they are true or false.

It is not surprising, in light of all this, that in today's church

there are many false leaders, and many false followers sitting

in the pews. Pornography and substance abuse is a plague in

the whole church, including pastors and leaders. Good or bad

fruit is most easily discerned by looking at the families of

Christians. Anger, cursing, and violence are common. They

may have built a "successful" church, but in the process they

have destroyed their wife and children. Just this past week, I

ministered to the grown daughter of such a pastor.

Let me share a scripture with my brethren from the

Amplified Version that I have paraphrased: "Beloved, let us

love one another, for love springs from God; and he who loves

his wife and children is born of God and is coming

progressively to know and get a better and clearer knowledge

of Him. He who does not love his wife and children has not

and never did know God, for God is love." (1 John 5:7-8) And

from the 3rd Chapter of 1 John, also paraphrased: "No one

who lives in communion with Christ and the Father knowingly

and habitually practices sin. He who lives a consistently

loving and faithful life is righteous, he is of God, he is a

Christian. But he who practices sin, such as anger, bitterness,

cursing, and violence, is of the devil, he acts like the devil, he

belongs to the devil, and his end will be with the devil." And

this is a direct quote from the Amplified: "By this it is made

clear who take their nature from God and are His children

and who take their nature from the devil and are his children:

no one who does not practice righteousness, who does not

conform to God's will in purpose, thought, and action, is of

God, neither is anyone who does not love his brother, his

fellow believer in Christ." (1 John 3:10)

My earnest advice to my Christian brothers and sisters who

are leaders in Christ's church and who are involved in any

kind of abuse in their homes is simple: either repent or resign.

Christian leaders shall receive a stricter judgment, and unless

you repent and change your life, you are storing up wrath for

yourself. "Be doers of the word, not hearers (and preachers)

only, deceiving yourselves. For faith without works is dead."



Sources:

(a) 10 Lies the Church Tells Women, by J. Lee Grady

(b) Turning Fear to Hope, by Holly Wagner Green

(c) The Sin We Hide From View, by Marcia Davis-Seale

(Charisma magazine, August, 2007)

(d) Dangerous Marriage, by S. R. and Linda McDill.

(e) Boundaries, by Henry Cloud and John Townsend



God Bless,

Glenn



Web-site: www.glennbrownministries.com



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1. "If you listen carefully, you often can hear the difference between anger toward an ex-partner, which would not be worrisome in itself, and disrespect or contempt, which should raise warning flags. A man who has left a relationship with bitterness should nonetheless be able to talk about his ex-partner as a human being, with some understanding of what her side of the conflict was and some ways he might have contributed to what went wrong."-Lundy Bancroft, "Why Does He Do That? Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men" My ex once said to a friend who was mediating for us with our children that "He did something wrong and then I would never forgive him for it." He placed the blame back on me. It was MY fault that our marriage dissolved. He was not to blame for doing the wrong thing that crushed and destroyed both of us and our great relationship. Apparently, it was MY fault for not forgiving him for his continuing and constant abuse. Imagine the nerve of me for not forgiving him for continuing to lie, cheat, hurt me sexually, manipulate, control, threaten, and demean me! 2. "Try to get him to talk about his own conduct in the relationship, especially around the time of the break-up. If he blames his own behavior on her, that's a bad sign."Lundy Bancroft, "Why Does He Do That? Inside the Minds of Angry and Controlling Men" One of my ex-husband's favorite things to share with anyone who will listen is that he was with other people because I had been. However, what he almost NEVER shares is that I never dated anyone else until his co-worker confessed to an affair with him, and then, the way he treated me after he was asked to move out and I dated someone else! He stalked, harassed, threatened, verbally abused me and the kids, called and lied to police, until I finally tried to get a restraining order. That part he rarely shares with anyone. 3. "Pay attention to how he talks and thinks about abused women. A genuine male victim tends to feel sympathy for abused women and support their cause. The Victim, on the other hand, often says that women exaggerate or fabricate their claims..." My ex told the court in a pleading that he never one time committed any act of abuse towards me, that I was unstable, and that I had issues for which I needed help. To this day, he has done nothing to rectify this claim or reverse it with court officials, the Judge, or our children(he told my 5 yr. old that he never hurt me). Even though I have specific documents that prove otherwise, he is consistent in his claim that he never did anything to me. *If you're reading this and your boyfriend or husband is talking in negative ways about their ex, you really need to get both sides of the story. One of the things I have done for my new man, is obtain and show him proof through official documents to validate my claims of abuse. I also have developed a working relationship with all of his exes. These are necessary things to do to ensure that you are not being blindly duped by the person you are with. Also, to be honest and forthright so that you and your new partner will not continue in negative patterns, it is important to do as much as you can to validate your claims if you have been abused. The best sources for validation are professionals. If you are being abused or even if you think maybe you might be in an abusive relationship start documenting things today. Journal, email friends, talk to an abuse center, talk to a therapist, a local clergyman, local PD, but get your story out there so there will the beginning of a trail...a paper trail that will lead to freedom!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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Reviewed by Marcia Roberts 11/24/2010
Thank you Regis and Laura! Your friendships and support are sooo appreiated! Best wishes for the holiday! <3
Reviewed by Regis Auffray 11/23/2010
I am sure many can find much to learn from your experiences and sharing, Marcia. Thank you. Love and best wishes,

Regis
Reviewed by Laura Fall 11/23/2010
Bravo my dear friend!



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