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Ruling that lawmakers must offer homosexuals either marriage or something like it, such as civil unions.

N.J. Court Opens Door to Gay Marriage

By GEOFF MULVIHILL (Associated Press Writer)

From Associated Press
October 25, 2006 4:51 PM EDT

TRENTON, N.J. - New Jersey's highest court opened the door Wednesday to making the state the second in the nation to allow gay marriage, ruling that lawmakers must offer homosexuals either marriage or something like it, such as civil unions.

In a ruling that fell short of what either side wanted or feared, the state Supreme Court declared 4-3 that homosexual couples are entitled to the same rights as heterosexual ones. The justices gave lawmakers 180 days to rewrite the laws.

The ruling is similar to the 1999 high-court ruling in Vermont that led the state to create civil unions, which confer all of the rights and benefits available to married couples under state law.

"Although we cannot find that a fundamental right to same-sex marriage exists in this state, the unequal dispensation of rights and benefits to committed same-sex partners can no longer be tolerated under our state Constitution," Justice Barry T. Albin wrote for the four-member majority.

The court said the Legislature "must either amend the marriage statutes to include same-sex couples or create a parallel statutory structure" that gives gays all the privileges and obligations married couples have.

The three dissenters argued that the majority did not go far enough. They demanded full marriage for gays.

Gay rights activists had seen New Jersey as a promising place because it is a largely Democratic state in the Northeast. The only state to allow gay marriage is Massachusetts. The only states allowing civil unions are Vermont and Connecticut. New Jersey is also one of just five states that have no law or constitutional amendment expressly banning gay marriage.

If the court had legalized gay marriage outright, the effect could have been more far-reaching, and New Jersey could have become more of a magnet for gay couples than Massachusetts, which has a law barring out-of-state couples from marrying there if their marriages would not be recognized in their home states. New Jersey has no such law.

A clear-cut ruling legalizing gay marriage this close to Election Day could also have been a political bombshell, galvanizing Republicans and the religious right. Eight states have gay marriage bans on their ballots in November.

New Jersey Republicans, who are in the minority in the Legislature, said they would work to ban same-sex unions by enacting a constitutional amendment.

For gay rights advocates, there was debate over whether the ruling was a victory.

Lara Schwartz, legal director of Human Rights Campaign, said if legislators have to choose between civil unions and marriage, it is a no-lose situation for gay couples. "They get to decide whether it's chocolate or double-chocolate chip," Schwartz said.

Steven Goldstein, executive director of Garden State Equality, New Jersey's main gay rights group, said his organization wants nothing short of marriage. "We get to go from the back of the bus to the middle of the bus," he complained.

The New Jersey high court castigated the treatment homosexuals receive under the law.

"The seeming ordinariness of plaintiffs' lives is belied by the social indignities and economic difficulties that they daily face due to the inferior legal standing of their relationships compared to that of married couples," the court said.

Outside the court, news of the ruling caused confusion, with many of the roughly 100 gay marriage supporters outside asking each other what it meant.

"I'm definitely encouraged," said Chris Lodewyks, one of the plaintiffs who gathered at a Newark law office. But he added, "I'm not sure what this exactly means in terms of marriage."

Another plaintiff, Saundra Toby-Heath, was more effusive: "I feel they were listening and paying attention to us as human beings who wanted to have the same rights."

Garden State Equality, New Jersey's main gay political organization, quickly announced that three lawmakers would introduce a bill in the Legislature to give full marriage rights to gay couples.

"New Jersey is a progressive state and has a tradition of tolerance," said one of the lawmakers, Democratic Assemblyman Reed Gusciora.

GOP Assemblyman Richard Merkt said he would seek to have all seven justices impeached. "Neither the framers of New Jersey's 1947 constitution, nor the voters who ratified it, ever remotely contemplated the possibility of same-sex marriage," Merkt said.

Gay couples in New Jersey can already apply for domestic partnerships under a law passed in 2004. Among other things, domestic partnerships give couples the right to inherit possessions if there is no will and health care coverage for partners of state employees.

Democratic Gov. Jon S. Corzine supports domestic partnerships, but not gay marriage.

Supporters pushing for full gay marriage have had a two-year losing streak in state courts, including those in New York, Washington state, and both Nebraska and Georgia, where voter-approved bans on gay marriage were reinstated.

They also have suffered at the ballot boxes in 16 states where constitutions have been amended to ban same-sex unions.

Cases similar to the one ruled on Wednesday, which was filed by seven gay New Jersey couples, are pending in California, Connecticut, Iowa and Maryland.

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By definition, homosexuals prefer to achieve sexual gratification by engaging in sexual activity with members of the same sex.

Anyone arguing that homosexuals more frequently engage in sexual activity with minors than heterosexuals simply has NO IDEA what the HELL they are talking about. Unless you a male republican politician who hires minors for sex off of the street. As a victim of sexual abuse as a child, I have a personal stake in the facts. I listen to bullshit from the mouths of self serving politicians, ONLY so I am aware of the manipulative power of their words. (POLITICIANS in the church, school, corporate world, OR those seeking public office [politic happens EVERYWHERE. NOT just within the ranks of those vying for public office- it’s all about selective recognition]) It became obvious to me a long time ago what the facts are.

It is important when reading what others have to say, to consider just what the hell they are winning by SAYING it. Especially regarding a subject such as the sexual abuse of minors.

Unfortunately- our children (like the children of MOST countires) are NOT PROTECTED from the sexual predators who require them for sexual gratification. This has always been the case, and nothing is changing there.

Why? Because there are MANY powerful people in the world who love to have sex with children. How do I know this? Listen to the news. People of notoriety are arrested for molesting children every single day. So- we can assume that most people who engage in this behavior NEVER get caught. And, from personal experience- I KNOW that it is true.

As a child, I was, as I stated above, sexually abused. By many different people. Not all sexual abuse is violent. Sometimes the predator can come across as very caring. Sometimes the predator lavishes attention and gifts upon their target. It is not always about violence and force. It can be about manipulation. Calculation. Seduction (of a sort).

Of the ten people who sought to engage in sex with me while I was a child- NONE of them were homosexuals and none were women. None were violent. Two were church “clergy”, three were school teachers, one was a high powered attorney, a police officer, a fireman and the other two were well heeled business associates of my father. These men were all from within the community where I lived for my entire life. I was born and raised in the same house- we NEVER moved from our community. These were people that I met throughout the normal course of my day.

As I started getting older- I tried to get help from my mother to end what was happening to me. She didn’t help me. I have my theories about that. Probably a bad political move to make waves within a community that made my parents wealthy. My father was a 32nd degree freemason. He was a self-made (and damned successful) businessman. He also backed a few mayoral candidates over the years. I am pretty sure that pointing fingers would have meant financial ruin for him.

I learned to deal with ‘it’ on my own. And it all ceased by the time I was twelve. The sexual abuse had started when I was 3. So- that’s a lot of crap to put up with for a lot of years. I did finally learn that I could say “no”. Most of the freaks that sought me went on a campaign to make me feel GUILTY for saying “no”. Dealing with all of that has left me a bit ‘hard’ and VERY suspicious.

A few things have become very obvious to me. One being- a sexual predator is going to put themselves in a position to come in contact with possible prey- just like a deer hunter knows they can’t bag a deer outside of the forest- if a man wants sex he will go to the most obvious spot to find what he is looking for. It does not take rocket science to figure out that if you want to fuck a child- you have to be around children. Like I said- it’s not about violence, in most cases. People that want to engage in sex with children actually want the child to LIKE IT. They want the child to welcome the attention. They become school teachers, daycare providers, church staff, sales persons at local stores- anything that will bring them in contact with possible sex partners. Or, they select a place to live that will bring them in contact with their prey. Close to a park, school, playground or church.

So- the people that snatch children off of the street and take them off and hurt them are really going for a completely different kind of sexual gratification. If it IS sexual gratification AT ALL. They are usually psychotics who want to hurt and kill. And beyond the fact that a child is still human, and not able to prevent physical harm, the choice of victim is not based on sexual drive. It is an advancement towards a bigger target. If sex occurs- it is usually a secondary thing. That behavior is beyond what I am talking about, here. That is a complex mind trip involving irrational thought. (I am convinced that our ridiculous society creates these monsters).

On an interesting note- most of these predators who got away with engaging in sex with me as a child have sought me out and found me as an adult. Each has pretended like they wanted forgiveness for their wrongs against me as a child, but really want more sex. Amazing. They all entertained strange fantasies about “the act”, that were all very warm and fuzzy. It was obviously very painful for them to hear what I really thought.

At one point in my life, I engaged in group therapy, and had discussions with other people who had endured abuse as a child. Few reported homosexual experiences. Those that did, reported VIOLENT homosexual experiences.

One incident that sticks in my mind happened to a very handsome and outgoing man, who I still know. He was in BOYSCOUTS, and on a weekend outing with his group- he came into contact with a camp counselor who snuck into his tent (the man was 15 at the time this occurred) and the counselor reportedly held a knife to his throat while performing manual stimulation to his penis. In forty years of searching for an answer- that is the only reported violent homosexual act that I can recall. Although I’m sure there are more in the history of the world. But I guarantee there are 1000 times more violent heterosexual acts.

My point is that child sexual abuse is not a homosexual problem. It is a HUGE problem that is mostly heterosexual, and born of sexual oppression.

I can see how violence can come from oppression. And, in this country where homosexuality is considered so WRONG, and people must HIDE their feelings and proclivities, or live like second class citizens- we can expect to create some monsters. How can we deal with ourselves when our most personal intimate feelings (which really make up mostly nothing about who we really are, or how we function) have to be secreted away, or doom us to life in hell on earth?

Self righteous assholes, and politicians that USE this argument which claims that we shouldn’t have homosexual marriages because homosexuals sexually abuse children need to be tied down and butt-f’d, in my opinion. The homosexuals that want to get married probably do not want to sodomize little babies. They are probably of a more nurturing kind that really want a life that includes basic care for the person they have chosen to commit to. I just can’t imagine gay marriage as having an underlying motive of making it easier to fuck babies. And it surely seems that these morons are implying JUST THAT.

The people who are saying these things need to be SCRUTINIZED. Because why would anyone suspect such a thing unless they were considering it themselves? The jackasses trying to argue that same sex marriage leaves poor little babies at risk of being victims of sexual abuse need to do a little soul searching. Face your own demons and leave people who are just seeking a decent life ALONE.
Reviewed by m j hollingshead
interesting article
Reviewed by John Martin
A man is born a man, and a woman is born a woman. The courts can declare otherwise, but it doesn’t change that self evident truth. Will we be seeing men staying in materity wards soon? Perhaps,the courts can declare them pregnant. People of course can share their lives with whomever they wish. People can roll play also if they wish. But let’s not get stupid about it. It makes our legislators and judiciary look like a bunch idiots. Opps...sorry, perhaps looks are not deceiving as we thought.

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