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A Study of Reincarnation: Fact or fantasy?
by Nell Gavin   
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Last edited: Tuesday, June 08, 2004
Posted: Tuesday, June 08, 2004

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Does science support reincarnation?

· If reincarnation is not true , is it because God CAN’T?
· WHY can’t God do reincarnation?
· If God can't do reincarnation, what ELSE can’t he do?

*** The Soul ***

FACT: The laws of Physics state that energy cannot be destroyed. Thought is energy. Therefore, thought cannot be destroyed.

CONCLUSION: The individual energy pockets of thought, feeling and experience that comprise our individuality (our “souls”, to use a common term) cannot be destroyed. Therefore our souls are eternal. If our souls are eternal, they must still exist after death.

FACT: Energy has definable, measurable, predictable patterns of behavior. The entrance of a soul into a physical body is a process that must be subject to as yet undiscovered laws of Physics because the process occurs in the physical world. Inhabiting a body is an accepted and widely recognized behavior for this pocket of energy.
CONCLUSION:  Physics allows the human body to contain a soul. Since this process occurs at least once per individual (and billions of times over all, taking the world's population into account) this "soul behavior" is very likely a "pattern" that can occur an infinite number of times for the same reason any valid Physics experiment can be reproduced an infinite number of times.

To prove that reincarnation is not true : We must identify the specific laws of Physics that define the conditions under which the soul enters the body. Then we must identify the laws that prevent indestructible energy from engaging in this behavior more than once, and explain why this behavior is isolated - "used up" after one occurrence - instead of infinitely repeating in a recurring pattern when those conditions are present, which is more typical of energy behaviors. 

Until we do that, we must assume energy can repeat this known behavior, just as energy can repeat other known behaviors, and can inhabit successive human bodies over time. At the very least, we must remain open-minded to the likelihood that nothing prevents energy from engaging in this behavior repeatedly - and your soul from returning - until we can use God's Works (the sciences) to prove otherwise.

Note: Searching for evidence that consciousness is or is not separate from the physical body (in other words, proof that the soul even exists) is another avenue to explore in support of either side of the argument.

*** "God" Versus "No God" ***

· Is my decomposed physical body more powerful than God because it "owns" my soul and prevents it from ever returning, even if God wants to send me back?
· How does a corpse stop God?

The existence - or non-existence - of God is not something anyone can prove. Nevertheless, logic and probability can suggest one thing versus another.


o Accidents are usually a mess. While some accidents create beauty (a symmetrical pattern in shattered glass, for instance), most create a situation that can only be improved with the intervention of a higher intelligence, such as a tow truck driver or a paramedic.

o The more closely you study any of the sciences (Physics, Mathematics, Ecology, and so forth) the more perfect they are. Perfection in the midst of their extensive complexity precludes random chance, is inconsistent with "accident", and is more consistent with "intention".

o Mathematics is orderly, and has rules. If Mathematics was created at random and without intervention of a higher intelligence, it would contain mistakes. The odds against something as complex and perfect as Mathematics creating itself spontaneously at random are similar to the odds against randomly shuffling a deck of cards into the order they were when you first bought them: hearts first, ace through king, diamonds second, ace through king, and so forth. The laws of Probability would prevent that from ever occurring. Therefore, Mathematics must not have been created at random.

o The odds against multiple sciences (add together Mathematics, Physics and the rest) creating themselves perfectly, spontaneously, at random, are incalculable. Calculate the odds against shuffling those cards in perfect order, then multiply those by the number of sciences. The answer you arrive at represents only a minute fraction of the real odds. There are countless "laws" and "rules" associated with each of the sciences, and these fell perfectly into place when the sciences were created - through whatever means. On the other hand, there are only 52 playing cards.

CONCLUSION: The odds greatly favor the existence of a higher intelligence - some sort of “God”.

*** God Versus Reincarnation ***

· If God can't do reincarnation, doesn't that mean his powers are limited?
· If God's powers are limited, doesn't that mean he is imperfect?
· Since God is supposed to be “perfect and all-powerful”, isn't it blasphemy to suggest God's powers are limited so that he can't do reincarnation even if he wants to?

I prefer to go with the odds, and will presume from this point forward that there is a God.

Creativity is an expression of the creator. Since a higher power, or "God", must have created the sciences, the characteristics that define this God must be very much like his creations. So, God would be consistent with Physics, Mathematics and Ecology, as well as all the other sciences.

In order to define or know God, we must therefore examine God’s works.

God's works can be explored, scrutinized, tested and retested. They are all subject to definable laws, which all produce predictable results. If a religion is a work of God, it too can be explored, scrutinized, tested and retested - and be ultimately proven "true ". Furthermore, what is true of God's other works - the Sciences - will hold equally true for God's work, "the true religion", since all of these would be expressions of the same Creator.

Testing, retesting and scrutinizing cannot be done within the context of a religion. This is to say that one cannot use the Bible to prove the validity of Christianity, or the Torah to prove the validity of Judaism for the same reason you cannot use a word to define itself ("Red is a color that is red in color"). We can only find proof through independent, objective and separate tests performed using scientific methods.

If a religion is the "true " one, it will pass the tests.

While it is neither my intention, nor within my power to declare any religion the "true " one beyond the basic building block they all share of "Do unto others...", I do feel reincarnation is worthy of examination, either within or outside of religion.

The following observations are solely intended to be thought-provoking, and to encourage your own personal exploration of the sciences and what they suggest about God, religion and reincarnation. While the examples all offer "likelihoods", none of them is intended to conclusively "prove".


o One of the rules of Physics states that “every action creates an equal and opposite reaction.” Therefore, God must be minutely fair.

The laws of karma state that you pay for bad things you do in EXACT MEASURE, and receive back what you give in EXACT MEASURE. This is consistent with Physics ("every action creates an equal and opposite reaction"). It therefore is consistent with the God who created Physics.

On the other hand, a belief structure that assigns eternal hell or heaven on the basis of inconsistent or incomplete behaviors (no lifetime is "eternal" to begin with, nor is it wholly "good" or "bad") is inconsistent with God's works, and therefore would be inconsistent with God.

o One of the characteristics of Mathematics is that the answer to an equation never changes. You always get “8" when you add 4+4. It is not conditional. It doesn’t change because you BELIEVE the answer is 7, or because your interpretation of a passage within a book implies that it MUST be 7. God, therefore, must be consistent, and (if you understand his laws) predictable.

According to the laws of karma, the columns of “input” and “output” always equal each other whether you add them top to bottom or bottom to top. You never get more than you give, in other words. This is consistent with Mathematics. Therefore it is consistent with the God who created Mathematics.

On the other hand, the answer to a mathematical equation is never determined solely by "belief". If you state that 4+4 equals 7 you are wrong regardless of your sincerity, how certain you are that your answer to the equation is correct, and how many other people believe the same thing - or how "sacred" they've made that belief! Therefore, if your understanding is that that you have earned a reward or evaded a punishment because of your beliefs, and for reasons separate from your actions, your understanding is inconsistent with God's works. Therefore it would be inconsistent with God.

o Nature, or God's work called "Ecology", plays no favorites. It does not prefer the lion to the gazelle, or vice versa. Every creature is equipped with survival skills and a survival instinct, then is left to either survive or perish. This impartiality in nature suggests that there is no special group of people that God likes better than any of the others. He doesn't like men more than he likes women. He doesn't like people who believe this doctrine more than he likes people who believe that one. He doesn't like people who are popular more than he likes the outcasts. He doesn't like religious people more than he likes atheists. He gives them all survival skills and a survival instinct, then subjects them to all the laws of the physical world, including the objective rules of Physics: "For every action, there is an equal and opposite reaction."

o In nature, there is a constant cycle of death and rebirth. Matter and energy cannot be destroyed (a law of Physics); they can only change forms. This is consistent with reincarnation.

o In order for God to be consistent with his laws, his judgment and assessments of us as individuals would have to be purely mathematical, completely impartial, and rooted solely in his law of Physics: "Every action creates an equal and opposite reaction."

o All the world’s great religions (Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Islam and so forth) diverge only in the details of how to worship (these "details" were contributed by man, and are largely based upon interpretation), and basically all built themselves upon the same “golden rule”: “Do unto others as would you would have them do unto you.” This is consistent with the laws of Physics (action/reaction). It therefore is consistent with God, who created Physics. Since the laws of karma ("get what you give") are consistent with the laws of Physics and with the "golden rule", they too are consistent with God.

CONCLUSION: All the great religions are essentially valid, and are built around a core that is consistent with God and with Physics. The issue is not to prove whether one religion is superior to all the others, but to objectively test, identify and remove the manmade "details" and invented "sacredness" that detract from the original message, and which move religions away from God.

The one true religion may simply be a matter of "less is more", a lowest common denominator that places all the world's religions on equal footing, with equal validity. It may in fact be simply, "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you."

*** Belief Versus Reincarnation ***

· What do I have to gain spiritually from believing God is NOT all-powerful, and in condemning those who think he IS all-powerful and therefore can do reincarnation?

Reincarnation, the consistency of Mathematics, the fairness of Physics and the impartiality of Ecology also address the complaint most people have, that life is "unfair". Unfairness does not exist in God's works. Since God doesn't treat us with discernible fairness, or consistency, or impartiality, where and when does his consistency and fairness and impartiality surface? In another life? For goodness sake, WHY NOT?

If you are a skeptic, you may need to ask yourself - honestly - why you don't believe. Is it because it's implausible? It's not. If you are comprised of energy, it is no more implausible that you could take residence in a physical body TWICE than it is implausible for you to take residence ONCE. Reincarnation is nothing more than a recurring behavioral pattern of your energy.

Is it because your religion tells you it isn't true ? Only "representatives" of some religions take that position on the questionable authority given to them by man or, most often, with no authority at all, only "opinion" formed from their training and conditioning by other people with similar opinions. The religions themselves either promote the belief (most, in fact, do), or say nothing conclusive against it, except in "interpretation", which is always debatable.

Or is it because you have some personal reason to reject the concept, and would do so even if you were handed proof? When people finally reach this point in the analysis, the truth often comes forward: "I just don't like thinking I'll have to come back and do this again." "I don't want to think that my mother will be reborn before I die and have a chance to see her again."
Even more prevalent is the resistance people have toward any suggestion that they may be responsible for their own hardships and misfortune because of actions they "can't remember" from previous lifetimes. In order to accept reincarnation, one must be prepared to be personally accountable.

*** Christianity Versus Reincarnation ***

The Bible repeatedly contains the following phrases: “born again”, “rebirth” and “resurrection of the dead”. Jesus also referred to his "second coming".

We can argue that Jesus did not intend for us to take those phrases literally. We can argue that “born again” and “rebirth” are terms describing a spiritual renewal that will ensure your entrance into heaven, regardless of Mathematics and Physics, how your actions stack up, and what "equal and opposite reactions" you have put into motion. People on Death Row are often "born again" in this manner, using religion as if life were an Etch-a-Sketch, and they can simply clear things up before they check out.

It would be inconsistent with God's works to suggest you can change a mathematical solution, wiping clean the slate of a Death Row murderer for instance, by simply BELIEVING the answer is different. Beliefs like this satisfy people's need to feel socially and spiritually superior, and presuming God loves you more than he loves someone else brings self-satisfaction. Believing this however, based on the fairness and impartiality of God's works, would realistically be no more effective in pushing you to the front of God's Line than believing the "indulgences" people purchased back in the Middle Ages were effective in absolving people of their sins. In fact, the principle is the same: an easy way to manipulate God into overlooking your sins, rather than accepting punishment for them like everyone else.

A theory that is inconsistent with God's works would not be consistent with God. I would therefore suggest that that is not the meaning Jesus intended.

We can argue that “resurrection of the dead” refers to the fact that we will all come back as walking zombie corpses at the end of the world using the bodies we have today. However, that would place emphasis on the physical aspects of our existence, and the Bible suggests we concern ourselves more with the intangible aspects. Therefore, this interpretation is, perhaps, questionable.

Furthermore, we can assume by "second coming" that Jesus was promising to appear in the sky and float down to us with arms outstretched and a swelling Hollywood music soundtrack in the background.

Or we can presume Jesus referred to reincarnation, and that he intended our interpretation to be literal.

The book “Continuity of Life” by A.A. Taliaferro, F.R.C., D.D. contains the following:
“In the year 533AD, the doctrine of reincarnation was officially banished by the Christian Church.”

In other words, Jesus must have specifically taught reincarnation because early Christians believed in it until 533AD, when the Christian Church made the decision to not believe in it anymore. By making that decision, the Church made it be “not true ” forever, and assigned new meaning to existing Biblical references like "born again".

In my opinion, they did NOT make reincarnation “not true ” by deciding it suddenly wasn’t, just as mankind did not make the world flat by condemning and persecuting the people who said it was round.

But that, as ever, is simply my opinion.

Web Site: Threads: The Reincarnation of Anne Boleyn

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Reviewed by Karen Vanderlaan 3/15/2008
This is a very intelligently and well written article--i am printing it in order to read it again--brilliant!
Reviewed by Ian Thorpe 11/28/2005
No reviews for this Nell? Wonder why not (apart from the fact that some of your friends are very lazy and have only go to the article a year after it was poisted - sorry.
It is know that energy emmitted from the atoms in the brain travels into infinity and there is proof that every time two atoms touch they are linked by a force we do not yet understand (dark energy maybe) for inifinity. So whatever happens to an atom will affect every other atom it has ever been in contact with even if that atom is on the other side of the universe. Fascinating innit?
Some while ago I promised on AD to reveal the nature and true location of the Holy Grail. That wass intended to be three or four 2000 word articles. It has now turned into a book project.
Good fun though.
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