WCC Peace Convocation ends; RDK Observations; Reading Between the Lines; No time to turn away from God and not enough time to turn back to God:
Extra Oil: WCC Conference Ends
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—— RDK Side Note: Sister Tammy found an entire Conference video at YouTube and was stunned by its opening citation. 05/19/11— The first day of WCC's Convocation began with a statement by its first speaker, which RDK found most enlightening: "Love, peace and faith from God and the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ." The attendees then resumed singing. Tammy will be scanning the video further and will report to RDK anything significant to our mission to keep our brethren informed of earth's last events, especially those movements against us. See RDK Observations below the WCC email:
World Council of Churches – WCC News, immediate release 25 May 2011- PEACE MESSAGE CLOSES CONVOCATION, BUT WORK HAS ONLY BEGUN
—— Participants at the International Ecumenical Peace Convocation (IEPC) released a message on Tuesday expressing their unified experience of a week-long exploration of a just peace and to navigate a path forward as they return to their homes and churches across the world. Attempting to take into account each other's contexts and histories, IEPC participants were unified in their aspiration that war should become illegal and that peace is central in all religious traditions.
—— The message states: “With partners of other faiths, we have recognized that peace is a core value in all religions, and the promise of peace extends to all people regardless of their traditions and commitments. Through intensified inter-religious dialogue we seek common ground with all world religions.”
—— The participants acknowledged that each church and each religion brings with it a different standpoint from which to begin walking toward a just peace. Some begin from a standpoint of personal conversion and morality. Others stress the need to focus on mutual support and correction within the body of Christ, while still others encourage churches' commitment to broad social movements and the public witness of the church.
—— “Each approach has merit,” the message, which was crafted by a seven-member message committee chaired by Bishop Ivan Abrahams of the Methodist Church of Southern Africa, states, “they are not mutually exclusive. In fact they belong inseparably together. Even in our diversity we can speak with one voice.”
—— Abrahams said he trusts that IEPC participants will find their voices in the message. “In many ways, this convocation is a milestone in the march toward just peace,” he said. “The words 'reaping' and 'harvesting' have been intrinsic to the life of this convocation. This message is to ourselves, to our churches and related organizations, and to the world
that is bruised and broken and that God so loves.”
—— The message also acknowledged that the church has often obstructed the path toward just peace. “We realize that Christians have often been complicit in systems of violence, injustice, militarism, racism, casteism, intolerance and discrimination. We ask God to forgive our sins, and to transform us as agents of righteousness and advocates of Just Peace.”
—— The message continued to address the four themes of the convocation: peace in the community, peace with the earth, peace in the marketplace, and peace among the peoples, allowing for specific emphasis on each theme and how they complement to the ethical and theological approach to the pursuit of Just Peace. “Much more than a text” The IEPC message captures only part of a truly historic event, said the Rev. Dr Walter Altmann, moderator of the World Council of Churches (WCC) Central Committee, as he received the IEPC message on behalf of the WCC.
—— “You take with you much more than a text; you take with you a profound ecumenical experience,” he said. “The complexity of the issues we have addressed will certainly require further work, reflection and action.” The ending of WCC's Decade to Overcome Violence is also a new beginning, he added. “As we return, each of us becomes a living message for the IECP,” he said. More than 60 of some 1,000 IEPC participants commented on a draft message, and their input was taken into account as the final message was crafted.
—— Moderating the comments was Metropolitan Prof. Dr Gennadios of Sassima of the Ecumenical Patriarchate, vice-moderator of the WCC Central Committee. “This final text belongs to you, and to us, and to all of us,” he said, “and this will be spread out around the world by the closing of this convocation.”
—— The IEPC participants responded to a reading of their final message with a standing ovation. The general secretary of the WCC, Rev. Dr Olav Fykse Tveit, expressed his pride to the IEPC participants who challenged themselves and each other to reach new levels of understanding and determination.
—— “We are called to be one in our witness,” he said. “We also see that the way to just peace has united us. This is a gift for all of us and we shall use it well. This week has brought many signs of your commitment. Sometimes we need to struggle. Sometimes we need to feel it isn't that easy.”
—— The participation of some 95 youth in the IEPC was also acknowledged during the closing of the event. Sanna Eriksson, representing the Church of Sweden, spoke on behalf of the young IEPC participants who planned activities and had highly visible participation throughout the convocation. “We rejoice that young people participated in this meeting in a wide variety of roles,” she said. “We thank those churches and organizations who sent young people as their representatives.” The IEPC message also expressed profound gratefulness to its hosts in Jamaica and the entire Caribbean region.
—— The Rev. Gary Harriott, general secretary of the Jamaica Council of Churches, said that the entire Caribbean region was both proud and excited to host the IEPC in Jamaica. “It was far more than planning an event, as some very important relationships were established, which we hope will remain intact even after IEPC,” he said.
—— "The final message may be complete but the work of the IEPC is only beginning," said Prof. Dr Fernando Enns, who was moderator of the preparatory committee for the IEPC. “We are only beginning to grasp the possibilities we have when we really respect one another. The Church shall not speak to the marginalized; the church is where the marginalized are. IEPC participants should celebrate their experience," he said, "but should not rest satisfied. Our journey must continue,” he said. “You and I, we shall hold each other accountable. The church is either accepting the call to just peace or it is not the church at all.”
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—— The WCC promotes Christian unity in faith, witness and service for a just and peaceful world. An ecumenical fellowship of churches founded in 1948, today the WCC brings together 349 Protestant, Orthodox, Anglican and other churches representing more than 560 million Christians in over 110 countries, and works cooperatively with the Roman Catholic Church. The WCC general secretary is Rev. Dr Olav Fykse Tveit, from the [Lutheran] Church of Norway. Headquarters: Geneva, Switzerland.
—— RDK Observations: "Love, peace and faith from God and the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ." Note that God and the Father are treated as two separate entities, rather than "God the Father; so, who is the "God" of whom they spoke? One of the prerequisites to WCC and WC membership is to accept the Pope as God, then the speaker's use of an unknown "god" as separate from the next two entities can be none other than a Pope: at this time that would be Pope Benedict.
—— Let us rephrase that statement to reflect WCC's intent: "Love, peace and faith from God (the Pope) and the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ." Also note that, traditionally and Biblically, it is accurate to say only, "The Father, Son and Holy Ghost." The latter is not included as the Bible instructs. IF they had included the Holy Ghost, they quite obviously would have been committing unforgivable blasphemy; which they do anyway due to teaching lies in God's name. This also reveals the Vatican ahead of itself: it already designates the Pope as God and claims God's heavenly throne, though it does not yet have it. Satan never will have that lofty throne or even David's.
—— Recall the 1-Hebrew and 2-Dictionary definitions of "Convocation:" 1. A holy ecclesiastical assembly to make a proclamation; and, 2. Calling a group of people together by summons, ecclesiastical or academic assembly. Biblically the term convocation is used exclusively with the gathering of the people to worship God on His Holy Sabbath Day as well as the various ordinance sabbaths and is always preceded by the word "Holy." Now, we shall get to the above WCC email:
—— While there was not as much in the WCC email, it offered more by reading between the lines. A second WCC blank email came in Thursday, 05/26/11; however, the only message was in the subject line— "WCC WEEKLY: Peace Convocation: message, theology, human rights, Orthodox & kids' perspectives, economy, ecology, Korea."
—— We find it odd that certain emails come in blank, especially when the subject just might be against everything the Remnant believe and teach; for instance, the above reference to "theology;" albeit, most of us know the great whore and her daughters' theology. Again, in the first email they closed the message by citing the number of Christian religions and "other churches." They do not want the general public to know that WCC membership also includes all pagan religions.
—— Recall sometime back: we advised of a radio report stating, "'Orthodox' means the Catholic Church" and all her harlot daughters observing Sunday in homage to their great whore mother— plus recent findings found that the SDA General and Local Conferences are WCC and WC members and promote unity of all religions. The "message" referred to repeatedly in the above update must be directly from Pope Benedict speaking on behalf of Pope John Paul II: he being the one to initiate the peace movement many years ago.
—— We should clarify the SDA Conference's declaration that it is the Remnant Church, as opposed to those who have "come out of her." We point to the Seventh Day Baptists (SDB) who have been in the U.S. since the early 1600's: having come over from and were seventh day adherents in England. SDA was established in A.D. 1888.
—— Is it not ironic that SDB existed when the AKJV Bible first became available to all mankind, that they were there when the seven prophetic seals were removed one at a time for understanding, and here to preach one more time God's Truth; and, SDB is still around? SDB members were mightily persecuted in the 1600-1700's by this nation's blue laws: they were beaten, imprisoned, hung, in general denied their right to "freedom of religion." As far as we also know, SDB is not a WCC member. SDA leaders and members have not been persecuted to the SDB extreme. So far, the worst SDA leaders and members have suffered is being called a "cult;" and sadly, the Conference churches are a "cult."
—— Now, which of the two is Christ's Remnant? SDA or SDB: it makes no difference, for the Remnant are they who obey God's Law, have faith of and in Jesus, as well as know and teach true prophecy. These are not known by any religious denominational name and have no building to call a "House of Prayer." Nevertheless, we digress; so let us get back to the WCC Convocation update:
—— "Kid's perspectives" above point to God's Laodicea prophecy: the "children shall rise up lawless." Papal Rome has everything to do with it: some of man's children do and will indirectly violate laws— of the land— which do include God's Law, while others will pointedly violate God's Law while claiming love for God and Christ— if violating only the Fourth Precept Sabbath— for it is God's Laws that concern Him about our children and humanity as a whole during earth's final hours. Not obeying only God and Christ's seventh day Sabbath renders the person with the Mark of the Beast: Sunday.
—— "War illegal." Has anyone considered what would happen when International leaders pass bills making war illegal? According to the above wording, it already is a "done deal" or is about to happen; if such bills have not already been passed in each country. A "done deal" would not be surprising in that many contrary bills are passed every day without reporting and without the people's awareness. Millions will be killed in one fell swoop by NATO's use of bombing, armed land troops and armored equipment; but, each nation will call it Marshall Law in God's name. Thus, where no war exists NATO still will attack those no more than suspected of inciting war. They will consider us as having declared war against the WC and for denying the possibility of peace: simply because we refuse Pope as God, refuse WC affiliation, and refuse Sunday.
—— "Peace." The world and WCC are adamant that peace from wars can be achieved despite Jesus' words; that peace as man thinks of peace will never be on this old earth: wars and rumors of wars to the very last hour. As Christ's Remnant, we will be accused falsely of inciting continuing wars; contrary to the fact we consistently urge brethren to harm neither man nor beast. As God said of their actions against us, "They think to do it for God." When God uses such phrasing, He means they are NOT doing it for Him. Remember what Daniel said of the great whore and her harlot daughters, "They think to change times and laws." As far as here on earth, they achieved both but have not achieved it spiritually; for there remain those who abide by God's times and laws.
—— It is better that we choose death by their hands rather than give up our loyalty to God and Christ and God's Precepts. This is no time to turn away from God; for there is not enough time left to then turn back to God: those days are long gone, turning back to God no longer an option. Sister Tammy's vision, of total disconnection from God, revealed to us: if one turns away from God's Ways now, the disconnection will be quick, irretrievable and final, the person's Seal of God removed and replaced with Satan's Mark. Already Jesus has removed their names from the Book of Life: God knows in advance.
—— "Marginalized.” The word's definition— are "insignificant." Note first that 'Church,' often capitalized, refers to Papal Rome as the "Orthodox" or only correct religion; therefore "Orthodox" applies to all Sunday sects. But, Rome also knows that, Biblically, the word "church"— as noted in lower case— means "the people" of all religious sects, pagan and otherwise.
——Blessed are Christ's sheep to be receiving these WCC updates; for by the above word, Papal Rome is making it clear that its mandates are not to be discussed with its individual Church members: the work is to be done without people's knowledge because they are "insignificant, unimportant, trivial, irrelevant, not worth mentioning, of no consequence (value); remain unused until better is very scarce."
—— Look up "marginal" or "marginalized" in your dictionary; for this applies not only to the Orthodox people but the Remnant, too. Obviously, they intend that their own people remain blind and deaf; else Orthodox might be as outnumbered as we are outnumbered. But more, note that last definition, "Remain unused until better is very scarce." The Dictionary used real estate (property, land) as a metaphor to explain its meaning: i.e. a person owns a number of separate properties but only one is extremely valuable while the others are worth little to nothing. So, the landowner sells or gets rid of his expensive land, thus forcing the worthless property to become valuable by reason of supply and demand.
—— Applying the 'real property' premise to WC's plan, then Orthodox is saying Christ's Remnant are "better," of more value (to God the Father) than its own "insignificant" Orthodox members, but the Remnant are we whom they wish to make very scarce; then the Pope's people worthless-to-God become the more valuable thus to the Vatican's gain by their significant numbers in myriad false doctrines. "The Vatican's gain." Sounds much like the Jesuits' vow, of which RDK recently wrote. In short, Satan deceives not only his people and his demons but himself as well; for he believes that, by ridding earth of Christ's remnant, leaving only the wicked and filthy will defeat God, Christ and the Holy Ghost thus setting Satan upon God's heavenly throne to rule earth via his last Pope: John Paul II who is both the sixth and eighth "king" of Revelation 17:9-11—
—— "And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman (great whore, Papal Rome) sitteth. And there are seven kings: five are fallen (dead), and (sixth) one is (Pope John Paul II), and the other (the seventh Pope, Benedict) is not yet come; and when he (Pope Benedict) cometh, he must continue (remain) a short space (time). And the beast that was (alive), and is not (alive), even he (Pope John Paul II) is the eighth, and is (was) of the seven, and goeth into perdition (destruction)."
—— A Pope reigns until his death; then, for a short time, the Vatican State is without a civil and ecclesiastical leader: until a new Pope is named. Therefore, the reference to "kings" means "Popes," in that Catholicism, the Vatican as it were, is both state and church. The first five Popes were dead, so John Paul was named the sixth "king." When Pope John Paul II died in 2005, Pope Benedict became the seventh "king;" the one to reign for only a short space (time). The Greek word for "space" means "a short time, a season." This translation might mean more than we think it does.
—— There is nothing in the above passage to imply Benedict's death. This is where many of us believe Pope John Paul II will rise from his coffin in the midst of Benedict's reign; and, perhaps, Benedict simply surrenders the throne back to him; but, there being no pause between "the eighth and goes into perdition," in fact no mention of time, it appears that almost instantly John Paul is destroyed by Christ's arrival in the clouds.
—— There is no way God will allow John Paul's second reign to last many years or even one year while telling the world he IS God; for his miraculous resurrection easily will convince the majority he IS God: Christ's elect subjected to the same danger of being deceived by his rise from the dead, "IF it were possible." From resurrection to destruction no more than a few months should pass: this, despite peace will not have been reached, as so many erroneous believe will occur before Christ returns. He said it would not happen.
—— Perhaps John Paul's few months will be the same time given Satan to deceive the world one more time when we return to reduce him and all the wicked to ashes: a season, 90 literal days the same as 3 statutory months. We have only 5 to 5-1/2 months before Christ returns, so any time now Satan might raise up his liberator-from-everlasting-life, Pope John Paul II. It seems quite logical that God would give no more time for John Paul's deceit than He will give to John Paul's father, Lucifer.
—— We have Satan's number for six time frames on which to validate the resurrection principle:
1. Pope Benedict has reigned, thus far, nearly six years– a short space;
2. He has completed the work John Paul began— finalized control of the world— thus it is time for John Paul to return to the Vatican's throne as the eighth Pope;
3. The above scripture allows little to no pause before the eighth Pope is destroyed;
4. "Cutting short" the Laodicea era comes by Christ's "quick" return, and only by His return will the eighth Pope instantly be destroyed;
5. The Spirit said of Christ's return, "No later than mid-Oct to mid-Nov 2011; and,
6. Earth is about to hit 6000 living years, at which time she will stop and enter her 1000-years Sabbath rest while Christ's Remnant spend the same time in heaven.
—— The WCC revealed Christ's Remnant in this statement: "IEPC participants should celebrate their experience, but should not rest satisfied. Our journey must continue,” Prof. Dr Fernando Enns said. “You and I, we shall hold each other accountable. The Church is either accepting the call to just peace or it is not the Church at all.”
—— The statement implies that Christ's Remnant is "not the church at all," at least not what WCC calls the church: for we will not follow its "Orthodox" ways. Having said that, the Orthodox are on their way to remove us from this planet. What they do not seem to understand is that Jesus is on His way to remove permanently the Orthodox attempting to block our path to heaven. Of course, they would prefer to annihilate us.
—— The WCC is the new UN and NATO as well as the world Dictator for which so many have looked and he has declared, "War IS illegal;" but watch them do contrary to their own edict as they make war against Christ's Remnant. WCC says, "Just peace;" meaning that gaining world peace "is righteous, is man's right, and is moral truth:" "justified" peace. Justified by Satan's standards, certainly not by God or Christ's standards. If peace were achieved before Christ returns, then He is deemed a liar. God forbid that any man imply or say His Son is a liar.
—— We shall not raise a weapon against them, just as Jesus did not fight against His captors or when they nailed Him to a cross. Rather, our Saviour cried out, "Forgive them, Father, for they know not what they do . . ." or to whom they do it: so must we cry out in kind and, in faith, know Jesus will raise up His Saints as the Father raised up His Son.
Revelation 22:7, 10-11 — (Jesus said), "Behold, I come quickly:" blessed is he that keepeth the sayings of the prophecy of this book. And (the angel) saith unto me (John), "Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time (Laodicea) is at hand. He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still."
—— We are shown above that salvation is no longer available; every human is sealed with either God's Seal or Satan's Mark. The only change available is to the lukewarm, which can turn back to God and, by repentance, hold onto their Seal. If the lukewarm do not turn back, they lose their Seal to never retrieve it again. The cold cannot lose because they will come to the Truth the instant they hear it. They lose nothing if the Truth never comes to them: their love and faith saves them in the end. God knows who had heard and who has not, making exception only for those cold.
Revelation 22:12-14, 16, 20 — "And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last." Blessed are they that do His (God's) Commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city (New Jerusalem) . . . I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the (seven) churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star . . . Surely I come quickly."
——We are shown Jesus delivering man's sentences: Laodicea represents that phase of a criminal trial. Each individual's sentence is based on a final, unanimous vote of innocent or guilty; the respective sentences being "life everlasting" or "utter destruction to never more be remembered." Jesus delivers the metaphoric sentences, which are carried out in the respective literal sense: innocent taken up to the clouds for safe escort to heaven, and the guilty die at the brightness of Christ's return to await the second resurrection.
—— Laodicea began in January 1991 and has continued for 20-years plus over 5 months. "Coming quickly" has been said since the beginning of Laodicea plus the cutting "short the age of Laodicea for the sake of Christ's Elect." Christ ended Revelation's prophecies, specifically Laodicea, with a promise, "Surely I come quickly." Not only is Jesus coming quickly and confirms it repeatedly, but the coming events will happen instantly.
—— We have the Spirit's word, "No later than mid-Oct to mid-Nov 2011." Stand fast, brethren, for these words of the Spirit literally mean JESUS IS COMING QUICKLY.
Much Love & Prayers, Sister BonnieQ
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