Extra Oil: All Roads Lead to Rome
by Bonita M Quesinberry
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edited: Friday, July 01, 2011
Posted: Friday, July 01, 2011
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Extra Oil: All Roads Lead to Rome
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©copyright 2011 Bonita M Quesinberry 062811
On Sabbath 03/11/11, RDK shared "Extra Oil: Remnant Are Tares?" with our brethren, of which research was performed and submitted by our Florida Sister Tammy– Gleaned from Versebyverseradio.org – 03-03-11, Tampa Bay, Fla. 33765. Steve Kreloff, Pastor, Lakeside Community Chapel (non-denominational), and a Teacher since 1981, born and raised an Orthodox Jew– the summarized excerpt below from the above "Oil" is a reminder of what has prompted today's "All Roads Lead to Rome":
Steve Kreloff labeled Christ's remnants "tares, heretics, antichrists, legalists, false teachers, false prophets and Judaizers. He referred to Paul's warning and added, "If they teach that Jesus is not God, then they are 'teaching another Jesus' and, basically, there is no light in them. They are like the Gnostics and will not go to heaven."
—— God's Logic: We are accustomed to being called 'legalists' but not the charge of 'Judaizers' for yet a second time: not long ago we had reported another pastor labeling us 'legalists and Judaizers' in his sermons. This reveals that all sect leaders are being directed to deliver the same message to their respective flocks.
—— Earlier, Kreloff added to the charge of being Judaizers, "They are determined to live the Mosaic Law." Kreloff obviously does not understand the difference between types of law known as Statutes/Precepts and Ordinances; that Moses' Law was and is specific temporary Ordinances while God's Statutes were written in stone by God's own finger and are His perpetual Law: the only Law He ever intended and still wants mankind to obey. He never wanted ordinances but the people insisted upon Egyptian-like sacred pomp and ceremony, Egypt's rituals to their many gods.
—— Kreloff rounded out his charges against us with every known false and pagan religion when he compared us to Gnostics, a religious group that teaches of a supreme God, among other gods, who is fallible and makes mistakes just as man does and that He really is not God: another god, Lucifer, is the real God. Gnostics were and are considered "disconnected and contrary to the Orthodox, that is to say, Catholic Church who slaughtered many Gnostics, as well as Christ's remnants, during the Dark Ages; but the Gnostic religion survives to this day.
——Kreloff implied that the "Orthodox Christian Churches" are the great whore of Catholicism, her harlot daughters Protestant and Pagan; all of whom are recognized by Sunday's umbilical cord between mother and daughters. More so, Kreloff came just short of admitting today's unity between Protestant denominations and Papal Rome; an iron clad union denied for nearly 2000 years.
—— Thus, the charges against Christ's remnant are that we: teach a different Jesus, use mysticism, spread myths and legends; and we are: heretics, antichrists, false prophets, Judaizers, terrorists; and we: do not believe saved by grace and grace alone, thus are determined to live the Mosaic Law— in short, Christ's remnant are pure evil. Kreloff went on to say, "Those who have left the Orthodox Christian Churches are the "tares" (weeds), heretics and antichrists." He referred to Paul's statement about spies coming into their midst, without the Apostles' awareness, to learn what they were teaching; then, they left to start their own form of Christianity: Kreloff laid that action at our feet today, we are "spies in the Orthodox Christian Churches that then leave to start our own religion."
—— By Sunday's own statements they imply that Jesus, the Apostles and their proselytes were Judaizers thus false prophets and antichrists. Is this not true ? Of course it is because Jesus obeyed God's Law and taught others to do the same; so did His Apostles and their followers. Specifically regarding the Fourth Precept, the Book of Acts contains numerous accounts of their obedience to God's Sabbath, that of which Christ said He also is Lord; meaning it is His Seal of Authority as well as God's: the very Seal we demonstrate in our foreheads— both intellectual and love inspired obedience. Sunday's implication is just as damning blasphemy had they boldly made the accusation against Christ and the Apostles.
—— Rest assured that Kreloff and those like him will have their goats going after those who have left SDA Conference churches: this is likely the reasoning behind SDA's lawsuit against those who have left the Conference churches yet use an amended form of the SDA name. An effective way to encourage people to rise up in rage toward Christ's remnant is to declare us "pure evil" and "haters of world peace" and to win a lawsuit against us as well as for "refusing unity." The day rapidly approaches.
—— Roads to Rome: Each time Christ's remnants were labeled 'Judaizers' by two different pastors of two separate denominations during the last twelve months, we felt the term would lead right back to Rome: her instruction or defining judgment against the remnant, as it were, to her harlot daughters around the world. Sister Tammy's research this past week resulted in proof that, indeed, the term 'Judaizers' was coined by Rome in Councils; 'Judaizers' are "lovers of Jews who observe the seventh day as God's Sabbath."
—— Council of Laodicea: "Christians must not judaize by resting on the [seventh day] Sabbath but must work on that day; but, if any shall be found to be Judaizers let them be anathema* from Christ." ~ Council of Laodicea, Canon 29, A.D. 360
*Anathema: Greek– accursed, maranatha, greatly cursed, excommunicated
—— Council of Florence: "All, therefore, who observe . . . the [seventh day] Sabbath and the other requirements of the Law, it [the Roman Church] declares [them] alien to the Christian faith and not in the least fit to participate in eternal salvation. ~ In the Bull (Cantate Domino) Feb. 04, 1441 during Council of Florence
—— The Councils of Florence and Laodicea together clearly state that, IF we obey God's Sabbath and/or ALL of God's Law, we are denied salvation by the Pope's act of excommunicating us from Christ, denied as sinners against the Orthodox Christian faith, God, and Christ: declared "not in the least fit for everlasting life." Previous Oils included Vatican quotes declaring the Pope as having the divine right to choose a day, any day of the week for the Christian Sabbath and the divine right to judge, condemn, and destroy anyone who refuses to follow the Church's dictates. (Interesting, in that only God has the right to destroy any or all things He has created. When man executes condemnation it is, according to God, vengeance; which is His and His alone.)
—— The Vatican's declaration does not hold up to the New Testament: "violating even one of God's laws is to be guilty of defying them all and such persons will be "utterly destroyed". . . BY GOD, not by the Pope's order to be carried out by men: i.e. his Jesuit army. Contrary to the Vatican, three times Revelation defines those redeemed as, "they who obey God's Commandments and have the faith of Jesus Christ."
—— The Vatican's charges and behaviors against Christ's Remnant along with teaching people it is a sin worthy of death if they obey any or all of God's Law are enough lies for God to destroy her with her daughters and followers; further damnation is to persecute Christ's remnant, but even more damning is her expressed hatred of the Jews– which today she denies. However, she commits a greater offense: blasphemy of the Holy Ghost. The denial of God's Law is proof enough to determine who are Satan's synagogues.
—— There is no doubt, and never has been, that Satan first wanted the chosen people (Jews) destroyed but God saved 10-per cent of them: Lucifer then could not prevent a promised Messiah. So, when Christ was born, he set out to kill Him. When that failed, the Devil deigned to discredit Jesus in a way that would have Rome kill him, thinking that would be the end of it. However, Christ rose from the grave, setting into motion a Jesus-following that spread around the world until, today, about 80% of the population claims to be Christians, one-third sincerely and two-thirds insincerely.
—— Lucifer then meant to destroy Christ's church and the Holy Scrolls, the Bible as it were. He almost, but not quite, succeeded in both goals. Having failed yet again, The Destroyer then set His sights on the Holy Bible; its destruction would cause mankind to heed only the Pope's word. He failed again when, in 1611, the AKJV Bible was available to every human and, by A.D. 1844, the Truth was being preached one more time until earth's end. 1844 was the time for Lucifer to direct his attention onto the Remnants of today and, by man's laws, have them deemed criminals, without representation, and subject to the Pope's judgment with death penalties determined on everyone tried.
—— True Remnants have no problem being labeled Judaizers, despite the negative connotation Rome puts into it, for we are delighted to be of God's chosen people; to be a Jew at heart and adoption, if not by blood; excited to be grafted into the Jewish Tree of Life. We perceive no negative at all in this terminology, but it has become a cold, hard fact that Rome and her daughters define 'Judaizers" as the lowest of the low, filthiest of the filthy, vilest of the vile: we will not bow to Papal gods nor kiss his ring, neither honor his blasphemous Sun–day.
—— There is not one of Satan's civil goals for today that have not been realized: we wait only for the Pope to order us up for trial or death on the spot. On the other hand, there is not one of God's prophecies unfulfilled right up to Christ's return. There are far too many of Christ's Remnants mistakenly believing that a number of prophecies have not occurred and will not be until there is a Federal Blue Law on the U.S. books.
—— Nearly all, if not all, other countries have federal blue laws; but then, those nations do not necessarily have individual State Blue Laws. IF a U.S. Federal Blue Law were needed before Laodicea could begin and all other prophecies begin thereafter, the Remnant will be surprised to learn it happened long before 1991, the beginning of Laodicea. Read about the U.S. Federal Blue Law below:
—— Federal Blue Law: All who wait for a Federal Blue Law need not wait any longer: it was achieved in A.D. 1961 by a Federal Supreme Court ruling in "McGowan vs. Maryland, Citation No. 366US420." The case-in-point was McGowan's effort to prove that Maryland's secular law forcing all businesses to close on Sunday is a violation of the U.S. Constitution. McGowan, a Remnant, filed the suit based on the law being an economic hardship on Sabbatarians and allows union of Church and State.
—— The U.S. Supreme Court ruled that, because it is a secular law as opposed to religious, it is NOT a violation of the Constitution preventing union of State and Church. "'McGowan vs. Maryland' was a United States Supreme Court case in which the court held that laws with religious origins are not unconstitutional if they have secular purpose." This statement witnesses to the precedent having a loophole to religious applications: it clearly does not differentiate between secular and ecclesiastical. McGowan might have faired better in court if his case had been based on discrimination.
—— RDK has, for many years, informed the Remnant that the U.S. has a little known law giving it the discretion and power to support, and rule on behalf of, all State Laws. The Remnant majority still "waits for a Federal Blue Law, believing that without one, much of prophecy has yet to even begin muchless currently be fulfilled."
—— The 1961 case set a precedent, effectively establishing a Federal Blue Law: this would not be recognized by anyone unless they understood what it means to "set a precedent;" especially considering that, a few years ago, the chief U.S. Supreme Court Judge stated in an interview, "We are not in the business of establishing laws . . . well, we, there are certain, uh . . . " He tripped all over himself trying to avoid explaining precedents, which he did avoid with much stammering but finally continued, "We are here to interpret the intent of the law and to apply it accordingly."
—— Precedents are higher court rulings contrary to or in agreement with previous lesser court rulings and that automatically become enforceable Federal laws without having to create a Senate Bill to get passed through the Legislature and House; but, ONLY IF all appeals to reverse said rulings have failed. The U.S. Supreme Court is as high as a case can be taken on appeal, no appeal allowed thereafter in that the Court's word is final; therefore, the 1961 ruling was and remains a U.S. Federal Blue Law. It does not matter that it does not include an ecclesiastical statement: it nonetheless governs both Saturday and Sunday contrary to Saturday thus maintains an economic hardship on the Remnant as well as validates Rome's World Church Charter-Doctrine and preformatted Mandates.
—— As the leader of specific Blue Law lobbyists, the Vatican denies a Federal Law has existed for 50 years: it does not want people to know just how far into prophecy is the world, therefore it will continue to lobby our Federal Government in the guise of seeking a declared and passed Senate bill. It will not come to fruition. Alas, it is this deceit that keeps the blind and deaf from knowing and heeding God's Truth as well as keeps a majority of Sabbatarians in the dark prophetically; that in itself preventing them from being fully prepared for Christ's arrival. They easily could become the Remnant virgins who did not bring extra oil for their lanterns in the event the Groom tarries.
——Seeking a Federal Blue Law was necessary to convince people that the Remnant will not be able to buy or sell 24/7/365— not true and never was true . The relevant Revelation passage means "an economic hardship"— a hardship does not mean an utter lack of: rather, it is the ability to achieve but with difficulty— for we never have been able to "buy or sell" on Sabbath and, due to man, neither can we "buy or sell" on Sunday.
—— Satan's goats buy and sell six days per week, more often seven— truly economic discrimination against Christ's Remnant and an economic boom for Sunday's people. We know the above Revelation interpretation to be accurate based on God's Word elsewhere assuring that, during this era, we will not go without yet the worldly will lose all they have: a "hardship," therefore, is the only possible explanation of Revelation 13:16-17.
—— Again, however, we say there was and still is no a need for a Federal Blue Law. The irreversible precedent above, however, merely covers all of Papal Rome's bases and solidifies her control over the world's governments and their leaders. It prevents any and all suits from being filed much less tried, allowing persecution to proceed unimpeded. Recently, the Pope was quoted saying he controls the world, of which no nation stood up to deny. To make this statement, that otherwise would be deemed presumptuous, he had to know with absolute certainty that all matters necessary to assure control were firmly in place and international leaders already bowing to his authority and demands. We have proven this so in previous "Extra Oils."
Daniel's 490-yr Prophecy: We addressed this prophecy on several occasions, more recently to clarify why Sunday's teaching that the last 7-years had not been fulfilled but, purportedly, the seven years were just recently completed and the "secret rapture" occurred: albeit, they offer no proof of the event. Of the various reasons we gave to prove the 70-weeks, that is 490-years, began and ended unceasing, there is one more validation.
—— It was "in the midst of" the last seven years that Christ was to die: precisely on time, three and a half years into the seven, Jesus was hung on the cross. IF the prophecy were to end with His death, then it would have been a 66.5-weeks portent. Instead, the fact is that the end years totaled seven, and He died half way through the seven; which implied there would be another remarkable event to occur that would end the 490-years, which includes its last seven years.
—— IF, however and according to Sunday, the total of seven years were to be fulfilled later, then by God's standard there would have been two prophecies: one for 69-weeks (483 years) and another for 1-week (7 years). None of this would compute, for Christ's ministry began at the start of the last 7-years and He died after completing 3.5-years of His mission. This would mean that Christ did not come when the Bible says He arrived. It also would mean that Christ would come, for the first time, today; thus Sunday's interpretation of Daniel's prophecy was to include and justify a "secret rapture" to take up all His earthly ministers, then return– the real second coming– at the end of seven years.
—— Such an interpretation begs the question, "Why then, between B.C. 457 to B.C. 3, would Israel have rebuilt the road from Rome to Jerusalem, rebuilt the walls and city and temple– instructed to do so in preparation for the Messiah's coming– IF He were not scheduled to return until almost 2000-years later? Compound that dilemma with the fact that, during His ministry, Jesus prophesied that Jerusalem, including the Temple, would be destroyed after He ascended to heaven: which destruction occurred in A.D. 70.
—— The above would mean first that Daniel misinterpreted the vision given him; second, Christ's ministry would not have occurred; and third, Jesus could not have warned of destruction in A.D. 70, having not yet come thus making the rebuilding of no necessity. Said destruction would have meant that Jerusalem and the Temple would have had to be rebuilt again, for which there would have been yet another prophecy to this effect beyond Daniel's portent: there is not one.
—— All events, starting with the beginning of the 490-years, happened perfectly and timely right up to our Messiah's death, resurrection and ascension; each event remarkable in itself. Precisely when the seven years were to conclude minister Stephen, of the seven ministers, was stoned to death. Then, Jesus-in-spirit form confronted Saul; chose him to replace Stephen; and renamed him Paul then directed him to minister to the gentiles.
—— That event was remarkable, first, in that Jesus very briefly returned in spirit form as opposed to a corporeal form and remarkable that He chose Paul– a Jew born in Rome thus considered Roman and a devout Pharisee; so devoted that he allowed persecution of Christ's Apostles and proselytes (the Remnant). Who would have thought Paul would turn to Christ to become one of His most ardent and persecuted followers?
—— Paul never considered following Christ prior to His confrontation; that lack of consideration indicated when he wrote to one of the seven churches, "I do that which I do not want to do and do not do that which I want to do." He spoke of his commitment to the Jewish faith as a Pharisee versus that of following Christ, whom he had erroneously thought of as a dangerous rebel. Paul did NOT mean he continued to sin despite not wanting to continue in sin, as Sunday loves to teach; which would have nullified Jesus' instruction to "go and sin no more." Still, after Christ chose Saul-Paul nothing occurred thereafter that possibly could have completed Daniel's prophecy. The timing was perfect.
—— Ironically, after we put out the numerous reasons why Sunday was wrong in its assumption, that the last seven years would be completed thousands of years later, they came up with another Biblical seven years to apply to and explain a "secret rapture." Those 7-years in the Old Testament were yet another misapplication; which is usual for Sunday when it comes to interpreting God's prophecies. As God wrote of Sunday, "They are ever studying but never coming to the Truth."
BonnieQ Update: Recent financial collapse— my Amazon Visa, Chase Card Services, has offered to set my balance at no interest with a minimum monthly payment of $165 per month for the next five years. If I maintain the payment for at least the first 8 months, they will leave the account at zero interest for 5 years; if I am late or short during that 8 months, interest will be applied thereafter at 24.9% or the current maximum.
—— They will contact me next week for my agreement or to negotiate or to refuse their offer. There remains my Bank of America Visa with a similar balance. I hope to get both to agree to $100 per month as I feel I could do that: it would be tough and I would have to greatly cut my grocery bill– Daniel got by on bread and water, so can I– but at least it helps me to repay the debt without bankruptcy. Praise the Lord, for this might be a start to solving the problem that could please our Father!
—— Until now, we had not heard a word from any of the shopping networks, which already have their money and are under no obligation to accept returns for credit, or heard from either of the banks. Now, we have only to convince Chase of $100 per month and hope to bring Bank of America on board with the same agreement. Please pray that both institutions will agree to $100 per month with balances non-interest bearing.
WCC: Again, 06-30-11 WCC has sent a blank email as follows— To: Bonnie Williamson unicornhaven.earthlink.net (Did not appear to be sent to any other persons or organizations) Subject: WCC WEEKLY: Christian consensus on missionary conduct; Racism; HIV; Christians in Middle East; North Korea food blockade
—— RDK still does not know how much longer we can put out the Extra Oils, if for no other reason than there is literally nothing left of which to inform Christ's Remnants: first, due to Bonnie's increasing difficulty using the computer. We have been advised that a voice program would be helpful but would not solve the problem of using its mouse; albeit, her doctor suggested that a touch screen might be the way to replace a mouse.
—— The second reason is due to increasing problems with our various websites and the computer's modem appears to be going out on us, steadily working at slower speeds. Considering Bonnie's recent financial woes, we cannot afford a voice program, touch screen, and new modem. Nevertheless, we will continue to do what we can for as long as we can; just do not be surprised if, suddenly, you no longer receive Extra Oils either privately or through the RDK group or find new ones posted at Seventh Seal Library.
—— We know many Remnant groups seek financial help from within. We will not do that: from the get-go, we promised our little flocks that nothing would ever be required of them except their prayers and to spread the word we put out via email and the Internet. We will not change; after all, God's Word is free and so should any and all translations and interpretations He gives to us by way of His Holy Spirit. What it has cost has already been paid out-of-pocket (publishing the books without return), and what it now costs us to put out His Word is negligible. God provides and will continue to provide the means for what He wants done. If the means are not there, then He has nothing for us to do.
—— In a brief aside, recall sometime back we informed that Google is contracted with our Government to track everyone's Internet use and to remove whatever the Feds want removed from the Internet. You might remember that a few years ago one of RDK's posts was removed and put under military control, despite the fact we have neither written or promoted anything that would indicate terrorism; quite the opposite in that we urge the Remnant to harm neither man nor beast. Albeit, we recently learned that we are considered terrorists for our refusal to observe Sunday and accept the Pope as God.
—— The above leads to this new fact: FaceBook is now owned and controlled by Google, which may well account for the problem we are having with our FaceBook homepage and wall: specifically the post/status and comment windows running off the screen thus unable to read all that is posted or read the comments thereon. We feel it might not be long before we are removed from all websites as a danger to Satan's plans.
——Things really will not get much worse than they are now; perhaps a few arrests and maybe a death or two; then suddenly Christ will be seen in the clouds calling our names. The Remnant are the only ones who see just how bad it is in the world, such as the world has never seen; yet, over 60-per cent of earth's population believe nothing has changed, all is as it always has been.
—— In the interim, keep the faith; stand strong in your obedience to God and Christ; harm neither man nor beast; pray unceasing; and know that Christ is coming quickly. If Sunday confronts you before then, simply spread your arms wide as you say, "Take your best shot then watch Jesus raise me up just as He arose from His grave. Be warned: my Savior is coming quickly!"
Much love & prayers, BonnieQ
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