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Reply - Black Plague 2005
by Jimmy L Holder
Thursday, June 23, 2005
Rated "PG" by the Author.
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Reply - Black Plague 2005


Here is my reply to my poem.


To TRAVONNE EADY: Harsh is the cruelty I experienced in Killeen - U should know U were there! As I said, Harsh is trying to keep your car on the road while truck drivers try to force U off. Harsh is moving to a state where the white people get the black people to shun U. Harsh is being denied basic human dignity. Harsh is being robbed constantly. I have a HUNDRED MORE!

To alexandre arnau: Question: Did you bother to read my race related articles? Maybe U should!

In those articles, had you bothered to look BEFORE replying, you would have seen the nightmare my lady and I constantly live in Ö I clearly outline cruel acts perpetrated by people of all colors! Frankly, from looking at your bio page, I canít tell what race U are. And, it doesnít mater!

But, if U are Black, my poem is valid. There R Blacks here in the South trying to do me GREAT harm! Fact! Check yours! Again, read all my race related articles - I dare you.

Define racist anyway! I love people of all colors - look at the totality of my posted work - not just one poem/message. I noticed you DIDNíT say anything about the cruelty being done to me! Why not? Would it surprise you to know my ex-wife, daughter, and son are white? Would it surprise you to know my last doctors were: 2 White, 2 Mexican, 2 Black, and 1 Asian? If you are going to be a WORD SLINGER - SLING the facts!

By the way - my poem addresses the cruelty being done to me (and mine) Right now in America ďright in the openď! U realize that right? In stead of suggesting HELP - you call me a racist!

Are you telling me the Black men of this country havenít fallen down. I invite you (my brother - regardless of your race or color to spend two weeks with me). No I dare you to spend two weeks with me! Iíll feed you, Iíll give you a warm place to sleep - all you have to do is go around the South with me and observe! Then, call me a racist after you see and experience what me and my girl experience every time we walk out the door!

To: Karla Dorman, Lady of the Lights

I appreciate the continued support you and your sister both repeatedly show me. My poem addresses BAD people. Bad people donít come in one color - nor do good. There are good and bad in EVERY race and in every state.

Prayers are always a good starting point. I believe in the power of prayer.

Yes, would you be surprised to know white people saved my live - MORE than once? It would be foolish to hate a person based on color. Thatís the people I am fighting! Thatís the people that constantly rob me and deny me medical help. They hate people simply because of the color of their skin.

Awareness - thatís the key! Many black men, even in a place like Birmingham, Alabama vigorously object to my brutal treatment. Bravo for them. And thatís in every state. We must make PEOPLE of all colors aware of the brutality put on common folk, like us, simply because some insure ďwhiteĒ people (the powerful minority) want to scare folks into thinking they are Gods.

We must talk to people to make them aware of the cruelty being done to human beings of ALL colors.

Are there people in the USA worse off than jimmy L. holder? Yes, absolutely! Are any of them being singled out and publically tortured by (ďletís tell the truthĒ ) White people! White people are leading my mutilation and CONTINUED torture. Black follow because they THINK that is what the whites want.

I noticed that alexandre arnau is from the North. Maybe, the same things going on in the South are not going on there. I donít know! But, if they arenít Iím moving there or ANYWHERE I am not hunted, humiliate, and shunned!

Simply put to answer your question - we must get the word out that a man is being tortured. Millions of people in many states know this, yet I canít get any help. Where is the press. Where are Black leaders?

People always stop brutality by letting those who commit it that it is unacceptable. Iíve seen it in Nebraska, Texas, and Alabama. Courage!

Raising your voice - even if it is just to a few people in your inner circle can make a difference.

Frankly - I defend my poem! Iím telling all of you of all colors - Black men united, White women united, Mexican women united, Asian American men united, or any united group of people can quickly stop torture just by speaking up! Just think what all these groups can do together.

Peace and love ...

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Reviewed by Karen Lynn Vidra, The Texas Tornado 6/24/2005
i say what karla has to say; she said what i feel; i feel the same way in a lot of ways. i still have some prejudices myself..NOT against black people, mind you; growing up, i had friends who were black, plus i have a niece who is half black, and two great nieces who are black, hispanic, AND white!!.., but i have to learn to work through them and learn to accept the differences in people who aren't like me. when it comes to prejudice, i seem to have a huge problem with mexicans. i work with them, and i have a problem in their not learning to speak english, yet they live and work in america?? not good! that is where my prejudices lie, and i am sorry if i feel this way, but i know with god's help i will change and learn to accept them and put up with them. it isn't easy, and every day is a struggle! but i am willing to make an effort and change. just keep me in your prayers, that is all i ask! thank you for letting me get this off my chest!
Reviewed by Jimmy Holder 6/23/2005
To Karla - thank you. Perhaps, I could have written the poem better, but I am glad you got the point anyway. Some didnít. The poem talks about the ďBADĒ people and excludes the GOOD totally. I KNOW you are good. But, WE see only the BAD - and it needs to be said - THATíS NOT YOUR FAULT OR THE FAULT OF ANY GOOD WHITE, BLACK, BROWN, RED, YELLOW OR ANYTHING ELSE PERSON. Yes, it is difficult to know what to do about a situation like this. I admire your courage replying.

To Sandy Knauer - thank you. Its on my title page. A favorite!

To: alexandre arnau

All people are beautiful! Stop tripping! I asked you your race because I wanted to know. Not to hate on you! In the past, I have written articles and poems that are not politically correct and had people hate on me. I like to know who I am talking to! Just for the record - When I was a Captain in the Air Force, my NCOIC (top enlisted guy) was Puerto Rican! We got along like brothers over 3 years!. Get it? I LIVE in an apartment complex with Mexicans and we donít have any problems. Donít you get it - I am more concerned with the content of your heart than your color. We are all the same color - HUMAN!

My poem is a reflection of the situation I am currently in.

My woman is Black, sweet, and totally innocent. My ex-wife is German, obviously liberal, and kind.

Yes, my articles have HELPED me and I know they have helped others.. That why I write - AWARENESS!

Letting people know what is wrong and un just is ALWAYS good. Always.

Surprising the facts is bad.

By the way, I moved here instead of Atlanta! Iíve been there AND Iíve been hunted there to were Martin Luther King was born! You are naÔve! My article is intended to alert people about what is happening! I love all people of all colors! Obviously, I pushed a button (White Devil) that you hate! You fail to mention I was also talking about BLACK and other Devils! Sure, I could have used a more politically correct (nicer) term. But, again, my poem is a reflection of what I face (brutality) all the time. It obviously succeeded! My goal was to make people feel what I experience - its ugly like the poem and racism! Get it?

Government? Obviously, you still havenít read my articles!

I did just move - to here Birmingham. Yes, I will move soon again. But, like you said, will it be better anywhere I go? By the way, my offer still stands. And you never suggested any ways to help!

You still donít get it, I donít care whether you are orange with red poker-dot spots. You are a human being! I tell you I am being tortured to death, and you tell me you donít like my terminology?

Do you get it now?
Reviewed by Karla Dorman, The StormSpinner 6/23/2005

That's what makes this nation great, we are all free to express our opinions, whether or not we agree. I will say this--your anger is justified; what the white man has done to the black man, to anyone NOT white, is criminal; as I said, it makes me ashamed to be affiliated with them. I can't change anything that has happened in the past; but I can apologize for anything I've personally did, said or thought due to my lack of education or preconceived prejudices; and do my level headed best not to perpetuate the cycle of hatred. My sister married a black man; they had a daughter together; although a majority of my family had a big time problem with them marrying, I didn't; as long as he treated her right, it didn't matter WHAT color he was (unfortunately, the marriage failed). I don't hold that against him because he was black; he was just a jerk.

Like you said, there are bad ones in all races; the bad ones give each race a bad name.

I wasn't criticizing your poem; I thought it was bold, powerful and needed to be said. I just felt lumped in with all of forgive me for my anger.

I love your poems, I love the way you write. That will never change. :)

(((((HUGS))))) and love, Karla. :)
Reviewed by Sandy Knauer 6/23/2005
If we must die, let it not be like hogs
Hunted and penned in an inglorious spot,
While round us bark the mad and hungry dogs,
Making their mock at our accursed lot.
If we must die, O let us nobly die,
So that our precious blood may not be shed
In vain; then even the monsters we defy
Shall be constrained to honor us though dead!
Reviewed by Alexandre Arnau 6/23/2005
if where you live is so terrible, get up and go. but don't believe for a second that your problems will be over, if you migrate north. we got as many problems, if not more, than the south does. in post-civil war america, the south had to rebuild, and it is a known fact that many southerners opposed slavery. so they did not want to be remembered for the stigma of slavery. if you don't believe me, how progressive the south is, look at atlanta, ga., or the chesapeake area, or charlottesville, nc. the list goes on and on. the north, however, still holds to its traditions of segregated neighborhoods, its quiet bigotry, of economic oppression. and being a native new yorker (uptown, baby), i'm quite familiar with all of these; friends being beaten by police, brown boys being killed for being in the wrong neighborhood with the wrong girl, being followed around macy's while shopping for a mother's day present, being told i needed a time belt change, when all i needed was an ignition switch, etc etc etc. so i understand what you were talking about. what i don't get is the finger pointing, name calling, backwards thinking, borderline paranoid,outright NIGGAtivity you displayed in your rant. someone who wasn't racist, at least in some small way, wouldn't have thrown around the "whitedevilcrackerofaywhitedevildevildevil" thing as easily as you did. i'll admit to being uncomfortable around white people, but those aren't the words that come to mind when i'm angry or feel targeted. and just because your lady is white doesn't mean anything. many grand dragons have been obsessed with black women. if you loved and respected her, you'd think twice about throwing around your phrases of choice, unless she hates herself anyway. if you want to focus your anger, focus it on the government who encourages you to think this way, encourages white people to hate brown people, who deny poor people proper educations to keep them poor, and keep the wealthy sitting in pork. crying about your situaton solves nothing, and only deepens the hole you sit in. recognize the babylon system design for what it is, and rise above.
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