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At Least 1,000 UK Soldiers Desert
by Peter Paton   
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Last edited: Monday, May 29, 2006
Posted: Monday, May 29, 2006

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At Least 1,000 UK Soldiers Desert










At Least 1,000 UK Soldiers Desert


 





British soldier in Iraq
Cases of soldiers deserting the army are said to be rising
More than 1,000 members of the British military have deserted since the start of the Iraq war, the BBC has learned.
Figures for those still missing are 86 from 2001, 118 from 2002, 134 from 2003, 229 from 2004, 377 from 2005, and 189 for this year so far.
The news comes as Parliament debates a law that will forbid military personnel from refusing to participate in the occupation of a foreign country.
The MoD insists "absent without leave" figures have remained constant.
A Ministry of Defence spokeswoman said the soldiers currently missing were considered to be "absent without leave" and would have to be court martialled before they could be found guilty of deserting.
She added only one person has been found guilty of deserting the Army since 1989.
According to MoD figures 2,670 soldiers went "absent without leave" in 2001, with the figure rising to 2,970 in 2002 and falling in 2003 to 2,825. In 2004 it rose to 3,050, falling back again in 2005 to 2,725.
She added: "We regard that figure as fairly constant. It often happens for family reasons and there is no evidence to suggest operational commitments contribute significantly to the figures."







There is no hard fact to suggest that our engagement in Iraq is actually causing people to leave the service


Former defence minister Don Touhig

John McDonnell, Labour MP for Hayes and Harlington told, Parliament last Monday that the number of absconders had trebled since the invasion with more soldiers "questioning the morality and legality of the occupation".
On Sunday he insisted the numbers of British troops trying to absent themselves from service in Iraq were rising.
"My understanding is there are a lot more seeking to avoid service, through different mechanisms," he said.







I am approached regularly by people who are seeking to absent themselves from service


Justin Hugheston-Roberts

"I think what the MoD is saying flies in the face of all the other evidence and the experience of soldiers on the ground."
But former defence minister Don Touhig told BBC Radio Five Live there were no "hard facts" to suggest the Iraq conflict was prompting increased numbers to leave the forces.
'Illegal acts'
Justin Hugheston-Roberts was the solicitor for Flight Lieutenant Malcolm Kendall-Smith who was sentenced to eight months in prison for refusing to follow orders in connection with a deployment to Iraq.
He said: "I am approached regularly by people who are seeking to absent themselves from service. There has been an increase, a definite upturn."
Military law expert Gilbert Blades, who represents soldiers at courts martial, said the numbers leaving because of Iraq were often obscured as they were not counted as conscientious objectors.
"One can't help thinking that what's behind every absence is the problem in Iraq and I would think that if the real truth was told, then the Iraq problem has contributed to a huge number of people going absent," he told BBC Radio Five Live.







There's a lot of dissent in the Army about the legality of war and concerns that they're spending too much time there


Ben Griffin

Former SAS member Ben Griffin was allowed to leave the military after telling his commanding officer he was not prepared to return to Iraq because of what he believed were illegal acts being carried out by US forces.
Mr Griffin would never have considered deserting but says his views are shared by many others in the British military.
He told the BBC: "There's a lot of dissent in the Army about the legality of war and concerns that they're spending too much time there."
Major General Patrick Cordingley, who commanded the 7th Armoured Brigade "Desert Rats" in the first Gulf war, said servicemen's views on Iraq prompted some to leave but "good leadership" would stop it reaching epidemic proportions.
He said those who had been to Iraq before or whose families were unhappy about them going were among those who might not want to serve there.
"If you have such a person in your unit you have to discuss things with them... you do not necessarily want people with you if they have that particular view," he added.



 


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Reviewed on June 9, 2006
Somehow it seems like not all that many, considering how many have already been injured and killed.
B&R

Reviewed by Mr. Ed
Reviewed on May 30, 2006
To keep things in perspective, at least 8,000 U.S. troops have deserted since the start of the war in Iraq. And I believe the numbers of desertions in both countries will continue to rise until the end of this very bloody war.

Reviewed by Crystal Silver Angel (Reader)
Reviewed on May 30, 2006
Oh my God, Peter,)))))
my hearts go out to these service men and women of the United Kingdom. I simply just wish this conflict would be over, Iraq has finally formed their cabinet of leaders, they have plenty of money in oil reserves.They have their trained military. Somehow deep inside I do believe Tony Blair is very proud of these beautiful English soldiers..The bombings Peter will go on after we have left earth. These people have been feuding since biblical times, you know Babylon. Babylon is suppose to be where the last great fight ends and the Lamb ( The Lion Of Judea ) comes back from a lamb to a lion. I sincearly believe what happens in the middle east will finaly bring Armageden. These precious troops of UK and U.S are so determined to bring forth democracy.Soon, the UK soldiers will be coming home according to Tony Blair. The bombings and fightings remind me of the Israeli's and the Palestines, never agreeing on anything, always fighting.I mean this is the truth, the hate each other. Who gave them that God created them any right to hate God's children??????????? We simply must pray and pray and pray for a new world by the words and deeds that we put out. And all that stupid fighting is all in the name of some religion that is where I have a real problem with organized religion. It meas well but it always divides, somehow because people are people with all their own dysfunctions. It is because they are carnal, carnal and intolerant of one another. As always I take something precious with me in your articles. Always briliant, expressive, excellent jounalism..So professionaly done, Peter.. Anyway, I am so thnakful to live in America where at least I know I am somewhat free. And those Al Qeada sleeper cels here in the states, those people don't have a legg to stand on and our intelligence will find them wondering around the U.S.. There is a man student at Yale that was in the Taliban. Now he's going to Yale?? I find it outragragious and these (some ) professors who are into the extremist views are teaching at our universitys.Yep, can you believe it?? WE will hunt them all down... and it's a matter of time for Bin Ladon. Someones going to get enticed by the millions of dollars in U.S tresury as the reward for him..It is a matter of time for that man is going to pay, period....Have a beautiful and glorious wonderful day, Peter and thank you!!!
Peace & Love, Dove

Reviewed by Felix Perry
Reviewed on May 30, 2006
Interesting viewpoint and figures presented here to allow the reader to draw their own conclusions about the topic. once again your news reporting keeps us in the light about subjects all too often not discussed in all areas of the world.
Fee

Reviewed by - - - - - TRASK
Reviewed on May 29, 2006
I Believe The Numbers Way Far More In 3000's For USA-Esp. Mexicanos Illegals Promised U S Citizenship If They Live Went AOL 1st--One Was USA Diplomats Son Deserted(You May Have Heard)Now Pacifist On Rampage What's Happening To IRAQ Children,i.e. Nobody Ever Told Hom Of 2000+ Who Still Dosappear Each Day In This F--ked Up Country USA...

Another Great Eye Opener From You Peter...

TRASK

Reviewed by ROCK-Salt! Proctor
Reviewed on May 29, 2006
When there's so much insanity in the action itself, it's bound to rub off on the people involved.

Reviewed by Jerry Bolton (Reader)
Reviewed on May 29, 2006
Must be a European thing.

Reviewed by Susan de Vegter
Reviewed on May 29, 2006
What fits the crime...desertion or War itself?

Susan

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