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Our Debt To Islam.
by Ian R Thorpe   
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Last edited: Saturday, September 8, 2018
Posted: Saturday, September 9, 2006

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Muslims are people like us, tickle them, do they not laugh, prick them, do they not bleed. And there is een a Supermuslim, an Islamic superhero

This week will no doubt see a greater outpouring of synthetic emotion than usually greets the anniversary of the WTC attack. Hot on the heels of that will come another hurricane of Islamophobia.

It is wrong to brand all Muslims as terrorists or to accuse Muslims of wanting to see every American dead. However it not wrong, racist or Islamophobic to point out that most of the terrorist attacks in rhe word since 11 September, 2001 have been the work of Islamic extremists, followers of the fundamentalist Wahhabbi sect. 

There are as many flavoturs of Islam as there are of Christianity, some are as repugnant as the most extreme forms of Christian fundamentalism, some, the Sufusts for example, are as dedicated to promoting peace and understanding as are the Quakers.

Mistrust of Islam existed before 9/11 of course but since then it has grown out of all proportion to any potential threat. Instead of blaming Islam for all the ills of the world though, we who enjoy the benefits of western civilisation should thank Islam for ....erm, well, ... the benefits of western civilisation. While it is true to say that without Islam the WTC would not have been wrecked we must primarily understand that without Islam the WTC could never have been built.

I have said many provocative things about the unreliable foundations of Christianity but my only regret is that I have not gone far enough. The true history of the middle east before the conquest by Alexander is convoluted and complicated but the role of "the Jews" and later Christianity as a civilising influence is totally mythical. Christianity can truly be said to be the worship of ignorance and stupidity. People need to be aware that the adoption of Christianity by the Emperor Constantine the Great heralded the dark ages.

Though Constantine was a cunning and effective political operator who sought advice from the traditional sources, his successors, in order to keep the Christians onside and so stay in power, had to accept Christian leaders and Bishops as advisors and appoint their nominees to governorships and stewardships in the important provinces. These people were intent only on promoting the interests of their religion as a means to increasing their own wealth and power.

Seventy years after Constantine's adoption and subsequent reinvention of Christianity the political structure of the Empire had weakened so that it was effectively a Theocracy. It was the early Christian church (practising a form of Christianity that would not be recognisable today) that ordered the greatest act of cultural vandalism ever perpetrated when Bishop Theophilius ordered the burning of the Great Library of Alexandria and the destruction of all Wisdom that did not come from God," (in other words anything the Bishops had reason to fear.

For almost a thousand years ignorance ruled what was referred to as Christendom. All art music and literature could only be in praise of God, practice of the mathematics, sciences and healing arts developed by the Greeks, Phoenicians and Egyptians was forbidden to secular Christians and only the study of Christian subjects was encouraged.

Ironically some of the knowledge the secular church, led by the Vatican. was trying to destroy was kept alive in the monasteries. Monastic orders also preserved historic documents that give us some insight into the true mythical origins of Jesus rather than the lurid fantasies of the modern churches. The Monasteries also maintained contact with Zoroastrian and Islamic and other non - Christian scholars in Egypt, Assyria and the east. The knowledge of architecture, mathematics, sciences, astronomy and medicine were thus kept alive.

Much was lost, that phenomenon of the astral bodies, the precession of the equinoxes, known to the Druids in northern and western Europe as well as to the Pyramid builders of Egypt and Mesopotamia was only rediscovered in the nineteen - fifties. This may not seem important but it is essential to understanding the changing of seasons and the coming and going of ice ages. The secret of how the Pyramids were built is still lost however, theories about the building of ramps and moving huge stones on rollers are just unfeasible and even the most powerful cranes we have today could not handle the reach involved when loaded with such massive weights.

Christians did not care about such things though, their obsession with God convinced them that they should just carry on building churches by piling stones on top of each other until the weight of the higher structures caused the lower levels to collapse outwards. Christian churches then were lumpish and ugly structures fare removed from the graceful and elegant temples of the Greeks/ Romans, Egyptians, Assyrians and Persians.

All that began to change when the Moors invaded and conquered Spain in 711AD. There were many places of pilgrimage in Spain, and good reasons for pilgrims to go there, after all it was where Jesus and his wife Mary Magdalene had fled to escape the persecution of the Pharisee (Medieval Christians really did believe that, and there is a stack of evidence to support their beliefs) There was also the cult of James, alleged brother of Jesus. So the Christians were pissed off by Moorish rule but even more pissed off when the Moors started to build magnificent temples to Allah and palaces such as the Alhambra.

"Look at how they honour their God and their Kings," travellers said, "can it be their God is greater than ours if he grants them the knowledge to achieve such feats of craftsmanship?"

Initially the Catholic Church had such heretics executed but after a while the hierarchy caught on to the idea that something was going on. "Anything their God can do, our God can do better," the Pope and his Bishops sang in unison as they set about building the kind of magnificent structures the Moors and Arabs were putting up. Without success, unless you count collapsed buildings and loss of labourers lives a success.

The Monastic orders were a bit more cunning though. "Could it be these guys know something we don't?" they asked, "and if so how much will it cost to have them tech us?"

There is a bone of contention about which is the oldest of the Great European Gothic Cathedrals, Durham in Britain or Chartres in France. Durham was actually started first but due to a little local difficulty in England in 1066AD Chartres was completed first (both still stand today but have been extensively rebuilt.) It is possible in either to see the evidence that Muslim architects and builders were involved. Serious scholars can arrange to be taken high into the roof structures where they can observe Islamic symbols carved in the stones along with signatures of the men who carved them, as if the Muslims were saying "well OK, its to the glory of the Christian God but look who built it.

It was contact with the Moors in Spain and the Arabs during the crusades that led to the renaissance. Development in the western world had stood still or in some fields gone backwards since Christianity had become dominant but now important travellers, not just monks, merchants and adventurers but noblemen and Kings were saying "Duh, we got it wrong."

Gradually learning and creativity became acceptable again. The Protestant reformation, beginning with the first translation of The Bible from High Latin to English, commissioned by John Wycliffe, (The Lollard Bible,) mad it possible for people able to read but no schooled in Latin, to read the scriptures for themselves, and to question the interpretations used by the Vatican's Priests. 

The church resisted of course, viz. the persecution of Copernicus, Galileo and others. But people interested in knowledge rather than church dogma, thanks to The Crusades enabling them to visit the middle esast, where the Church of Rome had little influence. They brought back texts that were not religious in nature and scholars  were able to learn some of what the Greeks and Egyptians had known and to build on it.

The Renaissance in arts and sciences spread across Europe.

So any time you come across Islamophobia just think that yes, it was deranged, fanatical Muslims that flew those 'planes into the World Trade Centre, but without Islam not only would there have been no world trade centre and no 'planes to fly into it (try building a plane without reference to Pythagorean mathematics) but no U.S.A. to get all stupidly patriotic about because the church would not have sanctioned expeditions to prove the world was round had it not been forced to.

Islam, like Christianity has its extreme forms, and many of the practices of Islamic faith are unacceptable in western societies, from the cruelties of the ritual slaughter methods demanded by the Quran, to forced marriage, rape of 'kaffir' women sanctioned by words of The Prophet, a man's right to beat his wife, the lowly status of women (the property of their husband, father or closes male relative,) forced marriage and so on should simply not be tolerated.

For all that I can't get away from the impression that Christian Fundamentalism (either Protestant or Catholic,) will try its damndest to drag us back into the dark ages if we allow it to do so, just as Wahhabism is dragging Islam back to the medieval era.Without fundamentalism and the insistence on treating ancient religious texts as factual history, when faith is secularised and power rests with the individual rather than cabals of priests, pastors, ayatollahs or imams we can live and work together. After all, Islam, Christianity and Judaism all have their roots on prehistoric paganism. For that reason I will close with these words from the prologue to Christopher Marlowe's play "The Jew of Malta,"

"I count religion but a childish toy,
and hold there is no sin but ignorance."

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Reviewed by Ian Thorpe
Reviewed on September 11, 2006
Elizabeth,
I agree with what you say about Islam (slight problem with the "worship a known pedophile bit - in those days Christians, Jews, Pagans, whatever all married girls we would now consider jailbait by a considerable margin. One of the Kings of England was married to a 9 y.o. and had to take her virginity on their wedding night in front of an audience. Sancha of Aragon was 11 when married to Jofre Borgia, sone of Rogrigo who was actually the Pope at the time.) Islam is crazy but much of what we find repugnant about it is a result of logal traditions and warped interpretations of the Koran which is as ambivalent as the Bible.
I will be "having a go" at Islam soon though.

Ian

Reviewed by Elizabeth Taylor (Reader)
Reviewed on September 10, 2006
Sorry Ian, but your article reminds me of the Al Queda poster boy "American" Islam convert who is publically encouraging us to "convert" befoe we are destroyed by Islam. While I can agree on your Christian fundamentalism views in many instances, the fact that Islam is still mentally and emotionally in the 6th century and whose followers worship a known pediphile and murderer, any rhetoric to the contrary that they are "peaceful" and do not support terrorism is rather a moot point, no matter whose rooftop they shout it from. They are doing nothing publically to ostracize terrorist activity in their own communities, they still support the charities funneling money to terrorism, they still invite extremist clerics to preach in their mosques, they still harbor extremism in their communities, and when confronted with absolute proof, they deny, deny, deny. Apparently Islam doesn't teach truth and integrity along with their intolerance to anything "non-muslim". They teach death and intolerance to the infidels in their koran schools. Spain is already lost to Islam, and France will soon follow. England is fighting its own battles and they are serious ones as the news from your part of the world indicates.



Nothing incites more dedicated and blind stupidity than religion and religious causes. Islam is right up there as a poster child for "stupid is as stupid does."



Elizabeth

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