I having recently been involved in a somewhat on-going battle with the internet poetry establishment, (it’s great fun) where I had reason to raise the question as to whether authors who post the same poem on several poetry sites simultaneously in order to get recommendations for improvements to their posting.
Then use those recommendations per se as their own original thought.
Then having the audacity to post the collaborative effort as an example of their own original work in order to acquire a prize or acknowledgement of excellence, without making any reference to the considerable input by other poets who have virtually by way of recommendation rewritten the offending item.
The modern day poetic hierarchy having introduced many new rules regarding what is acceptable in today’s poetry, would appear for some reason to have left honesty out of the equation.
Here is one of my poems unsullied by any such advice plus three virtual ab lib repartees I posted on one site where I was belabouring the impositions imposed upon the traditional poet, before being subsequently banned by the incumbent and irate overlords.
It would appear it is, not only American Presidents, who are adverse to poetic criticism.
Needless, to say none of the posted work reviewed attracted any favourable comment and as such much of the usual detraction and vitriol came from those accustomed to high praise in their chosen method of poetic expression...
The Ictus of the Bruiting Word.
Tonight like many other night:
I waste last rays of dwindling light.
Spindling floccule’s poetic byssus:
into threads of my tangential thought.
Whilst amber vitea still proclaims
its restless mind of victor’s immortality.
A funeral notice vies with poetic obsequies;
dark suited mourners, inwardly sigh
and silently eye the next contender
for the eerie hajji of appurtenance.
What tangled deeds a wordsmith decrees
addressing ecru’s artisan cloak of many cares.
To then, delight in ways its movement shades
in lisle of soft murmured synaesthesia.
When by such mind its all allusion
is little more than un voyant voit;
a canvas, which it’s self so breathes
sea silks made of consummate ease
. Yet wove so fine in warp and weft
What word could lay aside its deft:
embroidery of bright chromatic sheen
and still remain in weaver’s eye
an intricacy of nascence seen;
a randomness of xanthous dye
to librate leachate ictus inborn;
that golden mean a grace so real
in burnished truth’s own, bright suborn.
Sky’s fiery axis of Ixion’s wheel
sees hubris permeate with timed scorn.
‘Til sense intuitive, as words first flight alone
seeks safety on versification’s way forsworn
to rest awhile on bruiting’s make believe
and quell that quest of its qui vive.
As though approaching darkness could
by presence, be less than understood,
than sanctuary’s shadow adumbrating
its own self-centred mise en scène;
a sideling orison’s sad undertaking
of what it might have, somehow been
. When lenitive language deceives the pen
‘Til words, forgo their figurines of thought:
spreading cereous wings as in Icarus.
To where their aislings seem as caught:
On art’s abyss edge of primal Ekphrasis.
That staged scenario must of self now close
with all such arras, fated time bestows.
Free verse, the stage furniture of poetry;
a set; whereby, allusion acts upon
facades of words own mystery,
and language dies a trammelled death forlorn:
wrapped, in shrouds, of incomprehensible thought.
I stood upon a path, of which I knew not where it led
and yet a light shone bright that ventured me declare
“Consulere non quaero gloriam vocis "
As it edges ever closer to those who watch
the flickering lamp’s last spluttering glow;
‘Til like night’s beating moth, its effort does subside
As if it too had of its moment sought to hide
those charred wings that subdued thought now show.
“Da mihi fortitudinem vita excedere theatre”.
. No more, those penny stalls, where hoped dream enthrals;
and life’s own-posted page lies windswept in nature’s rage.
A poet’s death is but a moment’s breath in time.
And we who knew not favour’s scene or its false clime.
Read on. It’s but for you the clapper bell does chime
. Mor
. Prose, pretending to be poetry.
(Turning the pig’s ear into a purse of sorts)
Pre block-out prose set to a string
What joys you may attention bring
If you could now, but try to sing:
Who knows, someone, might like its din.
You write your words, in comic phase
to hear poor self; proclaim mores.
No wonder such receive duck praise.
When, pronouns litter every page.
Where definite articles are a must
they fill each line,as fit to burst.
To miss one out would seem a first:
On, that long step to better poetry.
When rescripts peer, no purpose sees:
to bring us joy with gentle glees.
They soak our brain in miseries.
When prose pretends, word is a poet.
Mor.
The Seven Pillars of Wisdom.
I post my poems on seven sites,
there wait on wise replies.
I chose the ones I think are best
and then go on to win a prize.
Mor.
Digesting the Indigestible.
Reading modern prose style poetry
Is like eating yesterday's stale porridge
At six o’clock on a frost white morning
When one could just as easily
Be having a nice cup of tea
Whilst reading BBC’s Home News
Written in understandable English
Mor.
Hi Ruan,
Well, it is nice to get an honest opinion. A rare occasion on Authorsden!
Moreover, of course, you are nearly right in all you say.
Furthermore, you are fully entitled to rubbish my postings, I have no complaint on that; however rubbishing my small circle of readers is a different consideration that smacks of elitist egotism.
Size appears important too you!
However, and notwithstanding, you miss one important point, whereas you appear to seek fame and fortune through poetry, by writing what others want to read.
I have no such ambition. I merely write in a style that I would wish to read.
If that upsets you so be it, I can live with it.
Poetry to me is merely a catharsis, which if you knew my history then you would understand why, however you do not, so you become judgemental of others.
A common trait amongst poets apparently.
Anyway, keep taking the tablets, who knows someday they may work.
I find collecting art to be more interesting than collecting transient readers, which in turn I consider art to be more profitable than collecting todays throwaway poetry.
Who does buy that rubbish?
Certainly not I.
Mor.
There is no need for this kind of snobbery. Reproduction is only a scant copy of the real thing and will never be more ‘correct’ than the original. Therefore, we cannot live successfully in the past.
So, whilst it may (perhaps shrewdly) be your forte to write an archaic piece, that not all readers will grasp (thus drawing a small, bedazzled, group of worshippers), this does not make you an ‘honest’ poet.
In terms of honesty, there are many tastes and preferences to be considered, which include everything from ‘old school’ style relics (such as your own) to current pieces, which are appropriate to a wider range of present day readers.
To deem yourself competent to openly mock those with the courage to span the void between the two, shows that you are clearly just as egotistical (if not more so) as those you condemn.
Of course, not all poets are great poets, but those that write do so because they have something to offer ...and, of course, not everyone will like what is written ...but that was true even in Chaucer’s days. It’s a fact of life.
Honest thoughts.
You straddle the fence of genius and another world...
Lily
For you to have explored the Internet and found several sites to place your poetry is quite a feat beyond my comprehension. I post my poems on my website and have been getting quite favorable response from searches for a few of them.
As for AD, there's next to no help with composing a poem on this social network. However, I do enjoy the glowing accolades, however insincere.
Write on.
Ron
"Spindling floccule’s poetic byssus:" if I interpret this correctly you're using your pen (figurative or literal) to capture the last unexpended bits of poetic insight that stick to you before you retire.
"When lenitive language deceives the pen
‘Til words, forgo their figurines of thought:
spreading cereous wings as in Icarus."
i think the cathartic nature of writing is adopted by most. Writer's work things out with words. Your discontents are plainly understood here. And also your cry for more quality, depth, and honor, is evident. For several years (years ago) my writing was nothing but cathartic. All of what I wrote in that period, however, has been retired from public view. I am not the kind of person anymore who shares everything they write. Perhaps one in ten (or less) is shared with the public, and even that seems too much at times. It's a pleasure to read you again. Your work inspires me to look deeper.
All the best to you Scotsman ... richard