After working 24 approximate years as a state worker in the Criminal Justice system, Debbie was asked while working as a caseworker at Women's prison to teach an English class. This renewed her interest in teaching and caused her to finish her 1st Master's degree in 2001. Enjoying graduate school, and wanting to be a better teacher, made her keep taking classes, which eventually led to a 2nd Master's in teaching English. She continued to fill the need of teaching inmates, but red tape hoops now have delayed classes.