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Last edited: Wednesday, April 11, 2007
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Not sure whether to put this in War or Women. It should really go in a category called social comment but there isn't one.


The issue dominating the news over the weekend has been the story of Faye Turney, the Roal Navy survival specialist taken prisoner and held in Iran and the way she was treated by the Iranians.

This should not raise any issues regarding the attitude of Iran to human rights, after all we all knew what the score was there. But it does raise questions around decisions made by western government, on grounds of political correctness, to put women in front line situations during conflicts abroad.

I once made himself very unpopular by suggesting that in forty years all feminism had achieved was to get women back in coal mines and boxing rings.

"Sexist pig, are you suggesting that women are not as able as men in those situations?" came the comments. Pretty much as anticipated, they missed the point.

Coal mining and boxing are professions that in the past have been known to brutalise people who earn a living from them. What question raised was "is it appropriate to be fighting battles for the right of women to do these things when we should be fighting battles for everybody's right not to?"

Boxing is not necessary to the advancement of human civilisation and coal mining, though necessary in the past, could have been mechanised a lot sooner, freeing miners from backbreaking labour in truly awful conditions.

Women traditionally work for lower pay than men and so the restoration of the right of women to work in mines was a gift to exploitative mine owners.

The decision to put women in the military services into the front line showed again that political correctness induces myopia. This writer would not dream of suggesting that Faye Turney is any less capable at her specialist role than a male officer would be, nor that any of the British, American, Canadian or Australian soldiers, sailors and aircrew involved in the current conflicts are not capable of doing their job regardless of gender.

When equality in the military services was granted though, what was overlooked was that in more than half the world women are still regarded as something less than fully human.

People like Faye Turney and Jessica Lynch are not going to be held by people who will respect them as equals and soldiers but who will dismiss them as disobedient and immodest women who refuse to stay at home and obey their husbands or fathers.

This would apply not just in the Islamic world but in China too, (and India - though India is not likely to ever be an enemy of the West.) Once women are held captive in a culture in which such attitudes prevail we cannot demand they be treated with due respect. They will simply not be regarded as the equals of their male colleagues.

No matter how wrong this is, it is sadly the reality of the world.

What it does show however is the absolute folly of our wars and those who got us into them. How can any force be expected to fight an enemy their leaders have not tried to understand?


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Reviewed by Reginald Johnson
Reviewed on April 12, 2007
Excellent article. There are differences between men and women. They should be embraced, not condemned or ignored. Sometimes a rose, is a rose.

Reviewed by Elizabeth Taylor (Reader)
Reviewed on April 11, 2007
Ian, women don't command respect in ANY country, otherwise we wouldn't be looking for "equal wages for equal work". We wouldn't have fought so hard for the vote and still be resented for it. And we wouldn't have asinine comments such as "women trying to be like men." Paranoia is the least of their problems. Go deeper, she says.

It isn't the women that need to be educated here, but the men who lack their own humanity and are insecure in being "a man."

Women see life as choices not to be dictated by anyone but themselves, to do what they can, and when they need to. Many "have to" to put food on the table because the man has come up missing from the family equation...all that insecurity about women being 'uppity' one can only guess.

Elizabeth


Reviewed by Tinka Boukes
Reviewed on April 11, 2007
Most interesting write!!

Love Tinka

Reviewed by Jennifer Butler (Reader)
Reviewed on April 11, 2007
Personally, I cannot make friends with a woman who is trying to be like a man. Now that I've heard perverse rumors, it seems they are crossing the friendship line, and that makes me very paranoid around them.

Reviewed by Randall Barfield
Reviewed on April 11, 2007
interesting read. never say '...not...ever...' i say (India).

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