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Secession of the Blue States
By David M Ray   
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Last edited: Friday, January 06, 2012
Posted: Wednesday, November 10, 2004

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I'm sick of all this talk about how the Southern states "need" the north. Time to set some things into proper perspective.

Nov. 10, 2004

In an article from that bastion of liberal big government, the Washington Times, there is an article, "Blue states buzz over secession", that goes to great lengths to show how much the states that voted for bush (read as "the South") needs the money from the northern states. These "progressive" government advocates never cease to kill me with their misrepresentations, especially when it comes to numbers. Do they understand how numbers work? I'm not sure.

It is often stated that the states in the south get far more money from the federal government than they give to it. How very true . But where is all that money spent that those generous feds give us? Let's see....who has virtually all of the military personell in the United States? Who has virtually all of the equipment for the armed forces? That's right, they include those numbers when coming up with this insane statistic designed to keep people in the South entranced with the idea that we are somehow financially dependent upon the northern states. The actual allocation of all this money the feds are "giving" us is never included with these off the cuff remarks. The above mentioned article, for example, when stating what the money is spent for, says that its spent on everything from "Social Security to everything else". Hmmm. Seems to me everyone in America regardless of their geographical location is entitled to the same benefits (if you can call it that) from Social Security. What about this "everything else"? What is that? Well, since most of the troops in the United States military live in Southern states, it is obvious that the money to pay them will go to the South. But this is no act of financial generosity. As anyone who has ever served in the military can readily attest, the income gained from this service is far from flattering. Paying the most basic bills for survival is difficult in many circumstances for military personell. Statistically, people in the states to the north are far less likely to join the military than those of the South. This has something to do with financial status and opportunity in the form of paid education and training, but it goes far deeper than that. The people of the South were volunteering for the military in majority numbers long before the feds would pay for fringes like college education.

So factor in the military expenditures in the south and then tell me the actual numbers.

Additionally, there is something else to be said about the South (and all the other "red" states) regarding this glorious receipt of all of these government "benefits" -many, if not most people who label themselves "conservative" or share a more traditional outlook on the function of government do not want these "benefits", and moreover consider them in many instances forms of intrusion by the government.

So if you all up north want to secede, go right ahead. But if you do, more of you will have to grow a spine and join the military for your new nation, because I guarantee our troops are not going to pick up and move north for you. What will probably happen is that you will all get together and start a support program for each other until someone comes along and ends you. Good luck with that.

As a side note, not everyone that voted for G.W. Bush wants perpetual war in an infinite number of nations, and considers such a scenario as fundamentally un-American. However, when the alternative is a socialist regime of endless programs and intrusions, many will take atrocities without to avoid atrocities within. A lesser of two evils thing. At the end of the day, when there are just two parties left, and they both wish to re-define the Constitution, if we are to pick one of the two it is simply a matter of picking the one that will cause the least amount of damage.

Actually, I hope someone does make it out of the US. If they make it before Texas, it won't be very far before. Regardless of what the rest of the states think about us, we are self-sufficient, and we need nothing from Washington DC. Please come and extract your oppressive programs and institutions post-haste. You can even have the Bush family back (you didn't think they were from down here did you?)

 

 


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Reviewed by Jeremy Vaeni 6/30/2005
I've been enjoying your articles. On many issues, we agree but from different angles. This, however, I cannot read because the very first line is patently false. The Washington Times is not a "bastion of liberal big government." It is run by the Moonies, a cult whose leader is buddies with George H.W. Bush. This paper was used all through the Reagan Years as a tool of the right wing much the way FOX News functions today. I have been surprised in recent years how the Times has, in fact, brought to light some of the criminal injustices this new-and-improved Bush Administration have committed. That's not liberal, however. That's called REPORTING. Furthermore, how can you even say "liberal big government" anymore? This administration has spent more on nothing than any I can remember. (And that doesn't include the TRILLIONS they've "lost" and/or stolen.) When are people like you and me gonna wake up and see that these so-called neo-cons are actually neo-facists and drive them out of office? Then we can get back to debating issues as "liberals" and "conservatives." All I've seen since 2000 is fascists, republicans and Ralph Nader. The democrats no longer exist. Ralph Nader is irrelevant. What are you even bitching about.
Reviewed by Leland Waldrip 11/13/2004
Some good points made here, David, but secession is not an option, so let's figure out a way to get along together. The way I see it, the increasing world population is raising pressure all over the globe, including in the U.S. In such a situation, backbones of jello are bound to bend outward at the weakest spots. We need to strengthen our tolerance of each other to the point that what you do is fine if it doesn't harm me in some way. Meanwhile, successful population reduction programs are about the only thing that will make inroads in a real reduction of overall tension that promises to get worse as we all compete for increasingly scarce resources (oil, etc.). Instead of blue/red state competition, we should all be trying to get global population under control before all states turn purple from lack of air and space.
Best regards,
Leland
Reviewed by Judy Lloyd (Reader) 11/11/2004
Well you know I said that if anyone wanted to leave this country regardless of who won there is an airport close by. I don't feel that I should have to go around explaining to anyone why I voted like I did. No more than they have to explain to me. What I hate is the people in other countries admonishing us for voting in our election. I love the south and people from the north and I will say it again why argue with someone dumber than yourself. Abe Lincoln said it best.


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