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An interview with Dr. Robin Kelly, author of The Human Hologram
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Last edited: Thursday, September 22, 2011
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Unlike many authors who write metaphysical books sprinkled lightly with some scientific jargon, Dr. Kelly is well-experienced in the medical and scientific fields, with a knack to explain difficult theories and provide sufficient evidence to support them so the lay reader can easily follow his argument. Drawing upon holographic, fractal, and quantum science, and Eastern and Western philosophies, Kelly demonstrates that although humans are a small part of the universe, even the smallest part has access to the whole.

Interview with Dr. Robin Kelly

The Human Hologram: Living Your Life in Harmony with the Unified Field
Dr. Robin Kelly
Energy Psychology Press (2011)
ISBN 9781604150629
Reviewed by Paige Lovitt for Reader Views (7/11)

Today, Tyler R. Tichelaar of Reader Views is pleased to interview Robin Kelly, who is here to talk about his new book “The Human Hologram.”

Besides being an author, Robin Kelly is a doctor, speaker, and musician. An English-trained doctor whose medical practice has evolved to embrace Eastern and modern mind/body philosophies, he focuses on integrating these holistic models into a modern contemporary environment—blending the best of the East with the best of the West. He has explored these issues in his previous books. His books have led to him being sought after on the Internet, in television and in radio. In 2008, Robin was also featured in the DVD “Your Guide to True Happiness,” and was filmed as an authority on cellular memory for the DVD special features of the Hollywood movie “The Eye.”

Robin is also a passionate songwriter, singer, and musician who has recorded four CDs of original songs “Black Ice” (1998), “Silk & Knives” (2002), “Shimmer” (2006) and “Something Magical” (2009). His songs have been played on New Zealand’s National Radio, and 1ZB, with a further live performance on TV1’s “Good Morning Show.” He has just finished writing a musical stage show “Chakramor,” an audio-visual entertainment based on the growth of human consciousness, set to the rhythms of the 21st century.

In partnership with his wife, Trish, a trained nurse and midwife, Robin runs an integral health practice from his home. Trish and Robin have three children—Sophie, Lucy, and Toby, and a beautiful granddaughter, Pyper.

Tyler: Welcome, Robin and thank you for the opportunity to interview you about your new book “The Human Hologram.” To begin, will you explain the title to us—what do humans and holograms have to do with one another?

Robin: In recent years, both the two leading popular science magazines in the western world, “The Scientific American” and “The New Scientist” presented credible evidence that we live as holographic beings within a holographic universe. The mathematics suggest that, more fundamental to our perceived four dimensions, there is an underlying matrix of interfering fields of information—a unified field. So if this is the case, then it follows that it is our brain and senses that create the perception of a time-based material world and universe. We are a part of this world and universe, so it also follows that our very bodies, in their most fundamental state, must also exist in this form.

Tyler: Robin, could you define exactly what a hologram is in layman’s terms?

Robin: This is much easier to describe with diagrams, as in the book. However here goes! A manmade hologram is a three dimensional ghost like image, a true 3D photograph if you like, that has two prominent properties. Firstly, that of real parallax where the image appears to remain in a fixed position when viewed from different angles. And secondly, it has a fractal nature whereby all parts of the whole are contained in the smallest part. (Third Guiding Principle of The Human Hologram, page 99)
The pioneering research into holograms won Denis Gabor a Nobel Prize in 1971, although his work started in 1947. He had to wait until laser light could be produced in 1960.

Briefly, a laser beam is split into two with one part aimed at the object to be “photographed.” The other part, a reference beam, is aimed at a mirror. The two beams are then set up to collide, causing an interference pattern that is recorded on a special photographic plate. The hologram is formed when a fresh laser beam is aimed at this plate.

I speculate in the book that a similar process occurs within our brains and visual tracks, helping us create the perception of a three-dimensional world.

Tyler: That’s really interesting, Robin. You just mentioned the Third Guiding Principle, but will you briefly tell us a little about the Ten Guiding Principles of the Human Hologram in your book?

Robin: After a couple of introduction chapters, I embarked upon presenting the scientific evidence that could support such a radical theory. I am conscious that for many without a formal scientific education that reading about holographic, quantum, and fractal science could be daunting. So I tried to make this section entertaining (fun even!), exploring the life, minds, and passions of the scientists who have explored these realms over the past two centuries. To help the lay reader further, I have summarized the most important scientific facts and theories with Ten Guiding Principles that support the argument. For example the Tenth Principle states:

“Viable working models of The Human Hologram are emerging based on an understanding of the primacy of information, and consciousness. Traditional philosophies such as those from India and China are based on this primacy of consciousness. Our four dimensional space-time existence is seen as a consequence of other hidden dimensions, which in turn are vitally enhanced by its presence.”

Tyler: If humans are “holographic,” what is the significance of knowing that information? What difference does it make for us as a species, and for us individually in our daily lives?

Robin: This is really the core issue I address in the book. The holographic paradigm recognizes that all of the information of the whole can be accessed by the smallest part—“as above so below.” And so, the participation of each and every one of us has a far greater influence than we have been conditioned to believe. So our actions potentially feed instantly into the unified field—positive acts, e.g. kindness, enhance the field—the field upon which we form.

It is through our feelings that we connect to the field—it is through our thoughts that we figure out how best to enhance it. The “heart” of the book is largely dedicated to the science that lies behind our feelings.

Tyler: Robin, will you give us an example from your book of how we can use this information and understanding of ourselves as holographic to improve our lives now and in the future?

Robin: It is important we learn to trust our true feelings, and learn to express them where necessary. At all times, we should act with integrity, showing compassion to others and ourselves. Of course, this compassion should spread to our planet and all living beings.

Tyler: Robin, I mentioned when I introduced you that you are interested in Eastern medicines, and in “The Human Hologram,” you suggest that Eastern and Western medicine can meet and be connected. Will you expand on that idea for us a little?

Robin: As a formally trained doctor, I have combined Eastern and Western medicine in my family practice for thirty years. For me, there is no conflict, only balance. My studies of Eastern and modern mind-body-spirit philosophies help me to explore the deeper meaning behind people’s health and life challenges. For example, Chinese medicine has always recognized how our emotions and feelings are intimately connected to our health.

New branches of science—fractals, biophysics, neuroquantology—are exploring the role of connective tissue—our cytoskeleton, a fractal web of protein and water with crystalline properties that extends into every cell of our body. This cytoskeleton has electrical properties and evidence is emerging that the Chinese meridians are the “trunks and branches” of this tree-like system. It is proposed that the furthermost “twigs” of this cytoskeleton—our microtubules and other tiny antenna like spindles—act as foundries where the “quantum” field collapses down into our classical world.

Tyler: Robin, sometimes people are scared off by scientific books because they are afraid they won’t be able to understand them. Who would you say is your reading audience and how would you describe your ideal reader?

Robin: I hope my book is accessible to everyone, even those with only the most basic science education. The new science I explore is the science of beauty, form, intuition, and art—but retains all the logic of the science of the past.

Many of us have been conditioned into disliking science—which has been primarily a deductive, “masculine,” left-brained disciple. I remember really struggling with physics at school, and only just passed my exams. However, the new physics and science fills me with wonder. It is so much about opening our eyes to the patterns of Nature that surround us. Those that seem most in touch with this vision are children and teenagers.

Tyler: That’s interesting, Robin. Why do you think the younger generations are embracing this new view of science as opposed to older generations?

Robin: I think they are naturally curious with an incredible capacity to learn. But also computer games, and 3D movies such as “Avatar” are creating a virtual reality that intrigues them. So popular culture, and the digital information age, is causing us to ask questions about the nature of reality. Many young people are intrigued by such concepts as teleportation, time travel, and a unifying matrix—again movies such as “The Matrix” and the Harry Potter series are stimulating, and feeding into, this interest.

Tyler: Robin, people in the metaphysical world, whether we want to call them “New Age” or something else, talk about how there is a mass consciousness or a mass awakening beginning—a lot of books have pointed to this happening in 2012 in line with ancient Mayan and other cultures’ prophecies. Is there an “Age of Aquarius” type shift happening—do you think our understanding of this new science and the holographic universe is a sign of that shift, or are these ideas all speculation and fantasy in your opinion?

Robin: I think this new consciousness is already with us. Rather than look outside themselves for the signs, I encourage people to recognize the signs that are occurring within. In the holographic paradigm, these shifts are instantly connected to the “outside” world and cosmos. We are conditioned to fear change, and hence, the apocalyptic scenarios that are being promoted by some mainstream and extremist sources.

We are now more and more conscious of our connections to each other and the natural world—this to me is consistent with an Aquarian age which views the “Piscean” fish as being only able to survive if the water is abundant, fresh, and cared-for.

Tyler: Did you do a lot of research for the book or was most of it information you’ve learned as a doctor over the years?

Robin: I am continually researching—but I am also in the wonderful position of having people come every day to my practice who embody these theories. And so it is my daily life as a doctor that provides me with the most valuable information. It has also given me the opportunity to try to explain these philosophies to people of all ages and from all walks in life. Their feedback has further educated me, helping me write in a way that can hopefully be understood by as many as possible.

Tyler: Would you give an example of why you would explain that there’s a holographic universe to a patient? Do you do it to comfort them or to help them heal mentally in some way, or is it just because the patient brings it up as a subject of interest in general conversation?

Robin: I think the whole concept is reassuring for all those suffering from chronic illness, and crisis in their lives. An understanding that love, consciousness, and spirituality are perhaps more fundamental than possessions and material wealth, helps people gain true perspective on their lives. The existence of these non-material realms are supported by the Human Hologram theory. An understanding that consciousness is fundamental to our existence—also raises questions as to whether this survives our physical death.

On a practical level—and one of my main motives behind writing “The Human Hologram”—was to begin to explain why ear acupuncture works. I have used this every day in my practice for thirty years. Briefly the outer part of the ear, the auricle, contains energetically a map of the whole body—consistent with holographic theory. And so, for example, one tiny needle at a particular point in the upper part of the ear can instantly relieve someone of his back pain. This technique is used by U.S. military medics and paramedics on soldiers with acute injuries in Iraq and Afghanistan—thereby reducing their need for high doses of morphine.

The main criticism for this procedure has come from doctors and academics claiming there is no scientific theory that supports this technique.

Tyler: Would you say that knowing we are living in a holographic universe is “comforting”? Why or why not?

Robin: It is comforting, as it leads us to trust our feelings, and intuition while still honoring our rationality. If we learn these skills, we worry less and can cope better with the chaos and information overload of modern day living. It is also pleasing to know that little acts of kindness, to ourselves and others, feed and enhance into an underlying field of consciousness. This is both comforting and empowering.

Tyler: Many people are either creative or they are scientific/mathematical/logical, but you appear to be that odd mixture that is both. Do you consider yourself unusual or fortunate as a result? Where does creativity come into your writing about a scientific topic like “The Human Hologram?”

Robin: When we speak and write best, our feelings and our thoughts are in perfect harmony. There is even evidence emerging that in this state we pluck words from “quantum” realms.

And so after gathering my research, and creating a skeleton structure for my books, I then try to write creatively, from the heart. Writing is not just about the words themselves—it is also about space, rhythm, and poetry. Similarly, our DNA is not just a linear sequence of four letters (representing base pairs)—it contains the poetic rhythm of a language, or musical symphony.

I think I may be able to grasp some of these concepts because I have a so-called mixed laterality. For some activities, I am left-handed, for others I am right-handed, and for a few, I am truly ambidextrous. So I suspect I have a good balance between my left and right brain, with a healthy connecting “corpus callosum.” However, this is not always a blessing. Whereas I seemed to thrive at composing and writing essays at school and university, I had real difficulty (and still do) with multiple choice questions. I am concerned that many fail exams because of their difficulty to process information in this form.

However, my odd brain does seem to help in my songwriting—my other passion—as words and music come to me together, often fully formed as a song.

Tyler: Robin, I find your answer fascinating, and I especially am curious to know more about your comment that when we are writing at our best “in this state we pluck words from ‘quantum’ realms.” As an author myself, I’ve often had that experience where suddenly words just flow out of me, and later, I wonder where they came from or where I got the energy to write all those books. And you’ve probably heard of automated writing where someone from beyond the grave dictates a book to someone on this side of life. Are you suggesting there is some greater consciousness outside ourselves that inspires us when we write or speak? Maybe some sort of shared or mass consciousness we tap into?

Robin: Yes I am sure of this. I sometimes write things down either in prose or a song—that mean little at the time, only to be understood by me at a later date (sometimes years later!) For example, several years ago I wrote that creativity came from the future—it made no sense at the time!

I am fascinated by savants, often with autistic traits, who can tap instantly into a wealth of universal knowledge—say being able instantly to multiply 8,175 by 5,287. I also marvel at the genius of Shakespeare and Beethoven.

There is an emerging field known as “quantum cognition” for recognizing these quantum connections in our everyday language. Psychologists from the Queensland University of Technology in Australia have joined colleagues at the University of Florida to pioneer this fascinating new area of research.

Tyler: Robin, I mentioned when I introduced you that you’ve written a couple of other books. Will you tell us a little about them?

Robin: My first book “Healing Ways: A Doctor’s Guide to Healing” (Penguin Books, 2000) was my experience and research validating my East/West approach to practicing medicine. I was keen to explain the principles of Chinese medicine in ways that everyone could understand. How and why illnesses were so often linked to our emotional state. There were a lot of case studies and stories from my practice.

I also talked about quantum and holographic principles, and speculated that these sciences would become increasingly relevant to our daily lives. It was in general very well received, although one established doctor in his review for a popular medical magazine here stated that it was a book that should “never have been written!” That only convinced me that I needed to write more!

My next book “The Human Antenna—Reading the Language of the Universe in the Songs of Our Cells” (Energy Psychology Press, 2008) focused on how our health challenges and life events are intimately involved in the growth of our consciousness. Much was based on the chakras, the Kundilini and other Ayurvedic principles. Again many real life stories, together with the science of microtubules and holography.

My new book makes all of this even more relevant because of the new science showing quantum processes to be at work in plants and animals, at the temperatures and conditions that support life here on earth.

Tyler: Robin, will you explain a little why that reviewer thought your first book should “never have been written”? Was there something about your book he feared? Do you think modern science may feel threatened in some ways?

Robin: I think our profession is very wary of people making claims based on New Age or purely metaphysical principles. They are concerned that gullible people will literally take leave of their senses, and forego safe and effective medical care. In general, I have found people seeking my help are much more sensible, and informed, than that. The new science presented in this book helps explain why many phenomena once labeled “supernatural” can now be regarded as “natural.”

I think there are healthy skeptics—ones who question and listen, and make valued judgments—and those less healthy who are hanging onto conditioned negative beliefs, and fearful of change. These will resist change even if it is supported by good science. They fear losing control. I have found my words do not tend to penetrate their dogma—more likely life’s ups and downs (or having teenagers!) will have a greater influence.

Tyler: Robin, we’ve covered a lot of material in this interview. To sum it up, what would you say is the most important thing to understand or the concept you most want readers to come away with after reading “The Human Hologram”?

Robin: Learn to trust your feelings, be compassionate to yourself and others, and remain in a state of joy and wonder about the miracle of life.

Tyler: Perfect, Robin. So what’s next for you? More books, more music—a little of everything?

Robin: I continue to juggle the passions in my life—while not neglecting my wonderful family, and my busy medical practice. I am presently focusing on presentations, workshops, and media interviews inviting active debate on the issues raised in “The Human Hologram.” I am trying not to present any of this as dogmatic fact—rather, I am encouraging healthy debate so we can discover more of our true nature.

I continue to write and record more music, performing my songs in my presentations. This is an important and joyful part of my life—the music is available on iTunes, and I regularly post new songs on my website for free downloading, but I encourage people to make a donation to a child orphan charity, or a charity of their choice, if the music connects in any way.

Tyler: Thank you again, Robin, for a great interview. Before we go, will you tell us about your website and what additional information our readers can find there about “The Human Hologram”?

Robin: Thank you Tyler for this very special opportunity. My websites are www.drrobinkelly.com and www.thehumanhologram.com and there is much more information there, including reviews, exercises, music, and links to Amazon etc.

I would love readers to join me on the “The Human Hologram” Facebook page, so that together we can reach a new level of awareness about what it is to be human.

Tyler: Thank you, Robin. I feel like my level of awareness has been raised just by conducting this interview with you.


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