Bonjour, G.W. ! "...before the Big Bang, there was the BIG BOUNCE...and TIME and SPACE like you and I and everyone else...are mere "objects" in the COSMOS (in other words, CONTENTS in the CONTAINER that is the MULTI-VERSE"... so says Aurélien BARRAU, Tenure-track Professor and Senior Research Fellow at Rhone-Alps University with a CNRS laboratory which he directs. He obtained a doctorate in astro-physics and a further doctorate in philosophy at the best French establishments (Paris-I & Paris-IV) with the highest honours and writes the kind of poetry that would sail over the heads of AD poets, commentators or readers. He is now only 46 and the Nobel Prize for physics is bound to come his way...as soon as the proof of his detection of pre-BB-matter is verified.
Just an anecdote. In the sixties, in Singapore, there was a Tamil-speaking Malabari who was consulted by the leaders and intellectuals of the State, for he could tell the future (or even the past) of anyone in great detail. So much for linear-or four/six dimensional space-time or whatever you will. Sleep well AD poets. Every good wish. Wignesan

Unpardon me but I relent it boldly;
For it is far ahead, if I can be sure of it,
And far it is, that my hallucination be valid,
And hallucination it is, as it should be,
And however, unlike itself, mysterious, unknown, and untested,
So it be foreseen in my tireless search.

I don't know but like love how you ask it!
I watched a show last night about the birth of a new planet
and our infantile earth was said to have been slammed into by a planet named Thea (i many have spelled that wrong)
It was really amazing and awesome how they gave visuals
and how the crust of earth spewed into space
and then that debri collected (in time) and formed a ball of rock
that we all love to adore "the moon" and what pulls it all together
as a "possibility" is that the moon dust & rocks are the same as the earths crust...wow...I know that leaves little room for god
but still it is fascinating...

Moon Walks & Light Years
Vickie

oh and one more thing, they were able to tell by some fossil corral
colonies that due to the orbital speed of the tide & the moon being so close to move the tides over 100 mph 1 year was close to 24 hours
yeah...wild I am dizzy :) xx

Something for nothing, the normal human quest. God was giving out 75% off coupons for galaxies in the origin real estate "boom" Patrick

There is no other but "what", or rather "who."

Good Question, "Einstein or Aristotle
or What?", Nice work, thanks for sharing.
Regards, Steve

Your poem is thought provoking at the least. Wonderful work, as usual. I, too, will have to go with "or what". I think the debate of when the world began will go on as long as there are men who wish to argue the point.

Joy L. Hale

I like the idea of Einstein's that there was nothing, and then, out of nowhere, !!!!!BANG!!!!! --one word spoken by the unseen Creator (The greatest poet of all), simply using His imagination, and then, commanding His galactic ink, put pen to the blackness, and said, "BE". --Charlie (I love how you think, Gene)

Nooooooooo, this has messed up my head since a wee bern, I refuse to ponder it, i refuse to ponder it. lol top going.

What? Is What God in this instance? All the theorising in the world and technological advances can only take us back - HYPOTHETICALLY - to what is, indisputeably, fact. We are here from nothing, i.e. chaos, so why do we continue to insist that there can be no God-being-him-wot-fired-the-gun-and-who-is-beyond-our-understanding-yet-not-impossible-to-know? Wasn't it Galileo who said something like "We can understand how go the heavens but not how the heavens go"? Poor old God gets blamed for everything and credited with nothing but, perhaps after all, he's the biggest hotshot of 'em all...?? I'm off to consult The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy to remind myself what Zaphod Beeblebrox has to say on the matter... I think he was an Einstein-ist as I seem to remember that 42 came into it somewhere... !! :)) xx

i think its beyond the capacity of our human brains to conceptualize the essence and mystery of creation ...

Gene, I too have to go with "or What", that gives me much more room to let my imagination go...as always superb poetry my friend.
Love and peace Gene, Carole~

Substance to give thought to, Gene. Thank you. Love and peace to you,

Regis

As far as I'm concerned there has never been nothing, there has always been something. Even the Bible starts with the Earth covered with water in an empty universe. Man cogitates and extrapolates far too definitively in linear time, how it started, how it evolves - timelessness is the key. A thing that is hard to get our puny minds around. or WHAT? The Christ of Creation. Cool thoughts. richard

I opt for the 'or What' as well.. great writing that leaves us to question... well done! Myrna

A most philosophical, inquisitive voice, delving deep ~
As for me, I just love to sink into the delicious mysteries Gene...
Love,
Christine

Gene,

Interesting take on the beginning of the world. At the end you say Einstein or Aristotle, or What. I choose What. Because who really knows? Great write.

Mary

I have no idea, Gene. Could that be because we can't understand it? We have been trying for so long... What do you choose?

Axilea

"or What?", of course! -- with "or what", I can judiciously(?) apply hyperbole and instantly romanticize the event(?) -- with Aristotle's polymath and Einstein's E=MC 2 I become grounded in hard data that eventually dulls my senses -- Gene you have created my "big bang" for the day and it is decidedly a fortuitous asset my dear friend --EMW = poetry to be savored -- I bid you love and peace my dear friend -- Jon Michael

Great writing Gene but I choose the what.

Newfie Hugs, Rose

Kool writing, Gene! I choose the "what"...giggle


Anna

Left to interpretation and belief, of course, but I am choose "What". Much to consider in your piece, Gene. ~Elizabeth

"or What?" ~Gene~
after much deliberation,
still to be day by day!

Lady Vivian

Your timing with this thought challenge
couldn't be better, Gene, the day the Nobel
for Physics was awarded to three who've
determined the definite expansion of the universe,
accelerating away to where or what? Is it being
pulled apart by an even greater universe so many trillions
of light years distant we can't see or by a gigantic force
of dark matter?
I love how you see and how you force me to think.

John

The animal world would have been better off with out the intrusion of man, but I have to go with what...?
e

Thought provoking write, Gene, as always you have us all thinking...
Great poetry!

Peace, love and light,
Amber

Who cares? I'm here. You're there. Uh, wait a minute. Maybe I'm not here and you are not there. Mind-blogging.