And seek we must, Jude, if for no other reason than to counter
the festering madness...
Peace,
Carolyn

There are lessons within this write that takes years to fully understand and I suspect many more to fully experience the truths that you have shared here.

Few years ago I would of argued you on some of these points. Now I just nob my head in memory of how I learnt what you have shared.

Some wrote much. I write, Bravo! You covered entirety.

Ron

your work inspires

There is much wisdom in your philosophical poetic offering, Jude. Thank you. Love and peace,

Regis

"Yet heaven grows within us all" - a wonderful turn which softens the individualistic tone of what might otherwise be considered a personalised credo or manifesto as to how to grow and survive. And I like the highlight you have made of the distinctions between fear and love... the former causing inner withdrawal to the extent of self-limitation; the latter creating a sense of life and expansion which moves freely to give and to grow beyond the benefits of self. Am fascinated by the concept that we are "unknowing victims Of our own circumstances"; if we know ourselves to be self-determining and accountable, the question perhaps becomes whether we would make the same choices over again if we were to take account of the "knowing" that we have? The denouement in this is what intrigues me... it is GREAT to relive the opportunity, perhaps, to continue what we seek... but how many of us would knowingly or "unknowingly" make the same choices second time around? "Freeing ourselves from the turmoil Of refusing who we may become" seems to be the crux of this poem to me... easier said than done, I suspect. Each of us has fields of gravity which keep us rooted and which clip our wings prohibiting flight. Doubtless, fields of fear rather than love. In the true Biblical sense, we all perhaps need that perfect love to cast out fear... or rather, reinterpreted, to be made perfect in love so that fear has no foothold. Oooops... is that the time??? No wonder I'm rambling.... So much here, Jude. Too much for inherent gas bags like me to be able to be succinct about. Great food for thought as always... hope I haven't given you indigestion! :)) Night night... K xx

Not only beautifully but perfectly written with pur honesty!

... and whatever we seek is exactly what we, eventually, find. Each of us creates our own future. Well done Ace!

Love & Light,
Joseph

Jude.........AWESOME PROFUNDITY!

I agree with you...we do become "the unknowing victims of our own circumstances..." because we often, unwittingly, create our own circumstances....inside that "turmoil of REFUSING who we may become..."

Your quill flows with wisdom........

Love&Prayers, Rhonda

WOW, Jude, you pen deeply. This one is fantastic!

(((HUGS))) and love, Karla.

Robert you are waxing philosophic and most of it vibrates in palatable harmony.

However ... I do not believe that heaven grows within us all, at least not the Biblical interpretation of heaven. If the heaven you are speaking of is a place of wisdom and harmony and peace we strive for, and attain from good choices, then I agree.

This constructs reminded me of roadsigns in the desert before you enter a town. Wisdom, and pointing out a way.

Good job here fellow poet ...

Richard Lloyd Cederberg

Jude

You point the way ahead for all us fellow travellers..
Make your own informed choices
And stick to your guns..

Peter

We are the unknowing victims
Of our own circumstances

I believe we often truly are, Robert.

As "budding victors of our own design" we conquer the cultural landscape and let it not be wasted by abuse nor war. Instead, we build on postwar prosperity and family togetherness, and just as the Sixties dawned, we announce a new spirit to Reliving Opportunity, and reannounce it as Aquarius rebirth. Build it on anti-abuse and civil rights movement that will have an impact and a deep emotional pull on the young as well as the old. This poem is an official call to pathfinders to take up a social commitment to free ourselves from the turmoil~

Sage

When you wax philosophically the world should take notice.

Advemture is a main reasion some join the army...then the advebture of love and passion mobes mountains and give the heart more bounce to their ounce and more strive to the jive...loving and joy are reasom to quest.
If we are happy with the way we are then we need ro protect the quest and rgink about ehrtr er esnt to be before chane comes that we are't prepaded yo make.
You have us all thinking this morning . Keep up the great work.
Susan

Most outstanding offering.....words of wisdom spoken my friend!!

Love Tinka

Wise observations and deep thought process taking place in this philosphyical look at the world of humanity that surrounds and lives within us.

Fee

Your depth here is as vast as the galaxy itself Robert. There is enough meat in this piece to last a long time...excellent write

"We are the unknowing victims

Of our own circumstances



And the budding victors

Of our own design "



I think the crux of this poem is about how we perceive these two verses, and knowing that which we seek. An excellent collection of concepts to ponder which at first glance seem sound to me. I'm glad to see your response to Anita cleared that up. Superb work Jude!

nice work....

"heaven grows within us all"
and the opposite of love is love inverted.
"We are the unknowing victims
of our own circumstances" oh how true, and how we "unconsciously" set ourselves up ... forgetting that we are never the victim but the creator "Of our own design". With this awareness we can then "free ourselves from the turmoil of refusing who we may become"!
Brilliant Jude!! Perfect timing for me!
Love, Suzie :-D

What leads to unhappiness is making pleasure the chief
aim.
If I don't like me, then who could I like..
Some of Solomons wisdom here...

Want to live with it, afraid to live without it...are we our own paradox?
Love, Taylor

thanx A PAX ... i was referring to abuse in relationships on an adult level ... maybe i should clarify that aspect ... adults do have a choice to end abuse, leave it ...

This is very good, and I agree with everything except one aspect of it

Abuse

its a very broad concept.....victims don't always realize they are beingh abused, until its severe....I know this poem is not primarily about that particular sin of mankind, and I don't mean to take away from your finer points......

But thats such a touchy subject in todays world...and yes we can have political abuse, child abuse, spousal abuse, animal abuse... its endless

Mankind as a whole can be viewed as noble or savage.......but on the breakdown of individual issues........
there is nothing engraved in stone....

:(
sad sad sad....
ahhh
pax........A :)