touching a vital question
the poet marginalised or marginalising himself?
what happened when human society succumbed to power and money before vision, love and humanity

... reminds me of the two Dylans... Thomas and Bob. Bob, in that he generally sought to cock a snoop at both The Establishment and all other self-selecting fraternities who tried to incarcerate him within the pigeon holes of their own poetic conceits. And Thomas, in the words of his poem "In My Craft Or Sullen Art":

(poem removed for issues of copyright! :))

... Anyways, many of us may not know shit OR care to, but poets is what they/we be by virtue of the compulsive-obsessive need to put pen to paper... Whether good or bad is, of course, a matter of opinion. At best we try to assess what appears to us in the form of words on a page, magically trafficked and filtered through the environment and temperament of our own mood and mind. It's a kind of Wizard of Oz ventriloquism and who is to say WHAT is in the author's heart or mind when they conceived of it?



... Like this pen, par example; a case in point. I love it when you stir it! :)) I rest my case and my voice... Except to say, Creative Confinement? Hard labour producing exciting new birth... Kowpat Kate xx

You writin' 'bout me? Probably.

Ron

A diatribe on the writing and what the scribe touches. A writer often immerses himself in his work, unlike photography, where the best photographers click pictures without having even the "slightest" presence! A poet, a writer has the license to cast himself in different roles, be as an observer or the observed, or an inconsequential character. As human beings, all of us have our times of turmoil, personal anguish, reasoning, and all packaged with a lot emotion. Does that mean all what is written holds true from all the points of views, or even a few of these points of views. Definitely not, I suppose!

A well written post on what the writing world is in general, without being too harsh.

Thanks for sharing this, Jude.

Debs

Hey Jude:



Although I may have similar feelings about poets and dreamers, but I won't say bad things about them; because their verse are most often spoken from their hearts and soul. We are all individuals, and lead different lives with different lifestyle, and although we may not feel the same way that another poet feel when we read their poetry, I personally would envision myself in the author's place. i.e. If I were the author going through what he/she is going through what would I do? How would I feel? I may not feel the same way as the author, but I would not think of them the way you do though, because it's not fair to judge another when we are not them. We don't really know what goes on with their lives.

Many poets show many emotions, but that's just the way poets are. They're more sensitive people; but there's nothing wrong with being sensitive!!


This piece isn't the normal poetry that I would find you writing. I hope all is well with you.

Sandie Angel :o)

It takes a fine poet to admit it;-)You have a powerful pen for truth Jude,and you've never been one to avoid it! methinks all poets and writers get lost in themselves,too much.

Don't hold back Jude, lets us know exactly what you really think of poets. The caress of carefully executed bovine scatilla upon a page offers an advantage that is often hard to deny. It clouds the view and gives ambiguity a fighting chance. Don't you think? Love this one. May peace and love be always with you my friend. Jon Michael

There could very well be more truth to this than fiction. Well said. J'nia

A fascinating piece, Jude

Umm, this poem makes me a bit puzzled..The first time I read it, I was surprised at your tone. The second time, I felt a bit of impatience and utter discord with the poetry community...But on the third read through, I felt your frustration. Something has caused you to become disenchanted and I am very surprised Jude, you are always so understanding and you write with such depth of emotion..I am going to say this:

You should go and ground yourself, find your sacred place and reconnect with that Shaman that dwells deeply within your soul.

I understand what you are trying to say, some poets appear to be what they write but turn out to be something completely different. It is true with some people, but I feel that most are writing from their soul and are true to what they believe in.

I speak from my own experience, and trust me, I see all and do not dwell in the past. It is right now that matters..I would love to dig inside of that brain of yours, I am sure it is one amazing place. I am wishing you freedom from sadness, loneliness, disenchantment, darkness and anything else that is a negative pull on your energy...
I have always told my children, my students and my dear friends,
Have courage to change what is in your power to change, and know when you can't. When it comes to people, that is definitely the time to not expect or try to change anything...Change can only occur from within oneself, and anything on the outside is beyond our control.

I don't mean to go on and on here, but you always bring out the deepest emotions when you write your poetry..I guess that is a good thing right?

I am wishing for you, much peace, light and love,
Amber

enjoyed the read

Tip top. Rumi or the best of the Buddhist poets.
Not out to please, nor look at life through another's eyes.
Yet just write from their own philosophers stone.
Rising above the superficial.

A poet that is not willing to give back to their community is the poet who will starve out...literary selfishness and ego-taint too good to dish out the bread slices and ladle up the gravy in the shelter line will end up on the impoverished rolls because the glut of self-publishing is hungry for worthless literature...

s

Sort of a statement on our priorities as writers and poets. We as poets tend to want to capture the world around us in our own way and means. Good writer Jude
fee

believe this philosophy could extend further than just your peers of poets, the impoverished regime is global, yet knowing that, until the individual poet, artist, or other creatives heal themselves internally, how could they ever affect the greater whole externally?

It is difficult to deny what comes from the heart or from the pleasantries of Technicolor dreams. I think that, often, poetry comes from a personal space that does not address the realities of those who do not escape into the comfort of penning verses. Happy 4th of July, Jude.
Take care,
Sherry

yes dreamers and inspirers, caring deeply! enjoyed the write!

I think that might be me with regards the last paragraph...especially the first line of it...e

Dreamers indeed, in outerwordly spheres, or otherworldly should it be. I am sleeping in my wastebasket filled to the brim, dreaming of how to escape it, an otherworldly reality for me, in the meantime, I think of things as they are, or maybe, or as they, in my little mind should be, none of them true or false, where to go from here, as always Jude you stirr the mind prodding maybe that's all we can do, isn't it. Bless you! Jasmin Horst

I think your words speak for a lot of us Jude. Great write.

Newfie Hugs, Rose

Sometimes I get bogged down up to my literary knees in a creative confinement stagnated swamp...but I don't dwell with a creative whim when mired, I just get angry and storm the hell out of it!

Georg

Brilliant! I totally get this. Gutsy and provacative.

I appreciate the philosophical perspective that you have shared within your verses here, Jude. It certainly provides pause for thought. Love and peace,

Regis