A sleepy poem. not bad.

What is love? Not a lot to do with religious heralders on high I fear. Because we can't love anybody until we get ourselves off the agenda, and no god as far as I'm aware has succeeded in luring us away from such solipsism. Guilt, lust, damnation, all these things are easy excuses for the sorts of serial behaviour we would be happier without.

Great that you've written a poem that made me think though, Ron. Doesn't happen every day.

Paddy

Rarely one to be serious, I detect very little nonsense here. Therefore I am not particularly shaken mostly because I won't be sucked into pointless arguments pro and con about religious deities and their contradictory principles. People are shits and always will be. Color me firewood for the fiery furnaces of Hades. Patrick

Ron you are a deep thinker and often a very deep writer with messages tongue in cheek. Isn't it wonderful that we all have the opportunity to express our thoughts and beliefs? Truth is so infinite and we only possess little bits and pieces of it, that's why we can learn from each other and each poem is a precious treasure. Well penned.

Most enjoyable reading Ron
Peace be with you

William

Interesting in imagery and wit, I particularly like the lemmings!

I subscribe to the belief there is no non-empirical knowledge, so to argue there is no God is contradiction of that fundamental belief or a claim of knowledge beyond empirical knowledge - statements of intuition as this rendering surely is, if to be considered valid from one modal(as in logical modalities)intuition must be considered valid from the opposing modal intuition - so I view with interest your perspective and wonder how it is possible to hold as factual two opposing pieces of empirical knowledge(cognitive dissonance)at the same time since it is agreed by a majority there is no non- empirical knowledge - if I tell you that you're premise is flawed I am not being mean, 'Hark the Herladers' - as progressives proffer their interest and seek to secure support for a socialist agenda, theology is their target of choice and religious followers subjected to inferences of lesser intellect than atheist and agnostics, a factually baseless ploy that is intended to be mean - Ron, thank you for starting my day a notch or two above mundane with your rendering - I wish you love, peace and great joy, my dear friend - Jon Michael

A delightfully rhythmic write, Ronald....thanks for brightening my Tuesday morning....

Anna

We "all" grieve at our own pace and in our own way!

God Bless You,
Deborah

Like them all, especially what seems to be the modern day mantra:

To follow lemmings off a cliff,
just to be part of the scene.
If I tell you that you're stupid,
I'm not trying to be mean.

The truth behind cynicism is difficult to mine, but you've unearthed some truly perfect gems. Well done.

'if i tell you that you're stupid that's not really what i mean'

There is wisdom to reflect upon in your verses, Ron. Thank you for sharing it. Love and peace to you,

Regis

I just love the way you write
you are the devil's advocate
not a bad thing, actually quite
good... Good to balance out the
thoughts and give others something
to ponder on :) It's what debates
are made of! lol

Wonderful write and thoughts Ronald

Love and Light
Lily

Life for Death *Ron*
or Death for Life..
loved your poem

Lady Vivian

Some Truths here Ron

I really liked this Ron, and especially the last two lines, 'In that brave new world of th efuture, that we worry about and distrust.' I feel it is very insightful of you to pinpoint that and put it into words. Maybe it is obvious to all but me, but I was slightly surprised and then recognized this to be truth in the next breath. Nice work. Be well, Kathy

It's hard to look into the mirror only to see ourselves looking back but it's a reality. Solid writing!

Love ya!

Jane

WoW, Ron, You out did yourself! Excellent writing!

Deborah

what a write of thoughts to ponder later, and again
budd

Yep. You're cruising with down Truthful Boulevard, Ron, in this one. Heehee, and I can only say, heehee, amen! awomen too.

Well, this is surely your trump card poem of poems, Ron. I think this well-crafted verse is of great substance and not a little nonsense. I admire that first stanza. It sets the stage for your delivery. Five start line for me is: "To get the heat outside ourselves." That just gleams. ~~ Diana